California Licensing - Page 70 - Contractor Licensing - Contractor Talk

California Licensing

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10-31-2013, 05:10 PM   #1381
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


You may want my help when March comes. Let me know.

Corp contractors licenses are issued to the corp. If the corp is dissolved, the contractors license is no more.

He can change the name on the license, but it would have to be changed with the sect of state's office first. He's the pres/ceo, he can change the name any time he likes.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 11-08-2013, 06:32 PM   #1382
Registered User
 
ivantheraider's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3
Rewards Points: 10

Re: California Licensing


Hello License Guru, I have been reading your posts here and have contacted you a few times before. I would just like to say that I really appreciate the knowledge you share with this community. I also have some questions about the CSLB and their rules.

First of all I am planning on applying for a C-33 (Painting and Decorating) License within the next month. I've paid for study material, have done my research and am ready to pull the trigger on this thing. Like many others, I have had a hard time with proving my work experience. I do have licensed contractors willing to sign on as certifiers. I guess my question is, is the C-33 license one of the easier or critical license for the CSLB to look into? Also, what is the percent of applications that get pulled aside for this particular license? I doubt it would be the same as an electrician or one of the other critical licenses. I am 27 years old, have never been in trouble with the law, am in the process of finishing my B.A. in business, and really would like to know how to make this process go as smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance for any advice you may have.
ivantheraider is offline  
Old 11-09-2013, 02:41 PM   #1383
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


When will you have your 4 yr degree?

The C33 isn't a critical class, so you shouldn't have a problem getting your app thru. Unless you provide an incorrect experience outline, check a wrong box, etc and the app gets rejected.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-09-2013, 04:42 PM   #1384
Registered User
 
ivantheraider's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3
Rewards Points: 10

Re: California Licensing


Thanks Guru, I'll graduate in June 2015. I already filled it out. Just in the part where my certifier has to list trade duties, I don't know what he should put. How about "he put paint on the wall!". By incorrect experience outline, do you mean less than the 4 years required as a journeyman? Also for all of the apps that are asked to provide further work experience evidence, if you do not have W2's, payroll records, etc. can you use an affidavit signed by, say, 10 previous clients, saying that they know you've worked for them at one time or another? The reason I ask this is because the contractor I used to work for passed away earlier this year. I know you said this is not a critical class license, but, I really would like to minimize any hassles that may come up in the near future with this application.

Thanks again Guru, you're the best!
ivantheraider is offline  
Old 11-09-2013, 05:34 PM   #1385
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


The outline should begin with... Experience includes... then list what you do on a daily basis within your trade. Prep walls, mix paint, repair wall surfaces, apply latex, water based paint....etc etc.

No, they will not accept letters signed by clients or contractors. You can have more than one certifier. That person(s) must have first hand knowledge of your experience.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-09-2013, 09:20 PM   #1386
Registered User
 
ivantheraider's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3
Rewards Points: 10

Re: California Licensing


thanks Guru, I guess my question is, does it make a difference if submit an affidavit as opposed to a letter? I don't understand why they would not accept a signed legal document.
ivantheraider is offline  
Old 11-09-2013, 10:05 PM   #1387
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


What's interesting about that is the certifier is signing under the penalty of perjury (fine/jail time) and yet the cslb disregards that and continues to hound applicants for more proof. Basically, they're saying, we don't who or what your certifier is...

Having said that, they won't accept a letter or affidavit.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 02:06 AM   #1388
Registered User
 
MJ23's Avatar
 
Trade: Floor Covering
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3
Rewards Points: 10

Re: California Licensing


Hello License Guru,

I am a 29-year-old woman and am considering applying for a C-15 (Flooring) license. My experience would be considered supervisory (on and off since 2005). However, I worked for my father-in-law's flooring business between 2005-2008 (which has since closed) and am now currently working for my husband's business since 2011. Would my gender, age and experience (since it's family-owned business related) be red flags?

Add: My FIL and husband would have to be the certifiers since I was/am employed through them.

Last edited by MJ23; 11-11-2013 at 11:15 AM.
MJ23 is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 12:01 PM   #1389
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


Hi MJ23,

Gender has never been a red flag. Unless, perhaps, you are Asian. I've been told by someone inside the cslb that they are profiling people with Asian last names.

The C15 is not a "critical classification" so that shouldn't be a red flag.

There is always the possibility of the app being sent to investigation as part of the mandated 3% minimum. But if you format the experience outline correctly, you should be ok.

I would suggest that you have your experience verification documents ready just in case they do ask for it. w-2's, pay stubs, tax returns, etc that prove you have the experience you're providing.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 01:44 PM   #1390
Registered User
 
MJ23's Avatar
 
Trade: Floor Covering
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3
Rewards Points: 10

Re: California Licensing


Quote:
Originally Posted by License Guru View Post
Hi MJ23,

Gender has never been a red flag. Unless, perhaps, you are Asian. I've been told by someone inside the cslb that they are profiling people with Asian last names.

The C15 is not a "critical classification" so that shouldn't be a red flag.

There is always the possibility of the app being sent to investigation as part of the mandated 3% minimum. But if you format the experience outline correctly, you should be ok.

I would suggest that you have your experience verification documents ready just in case they do ask for it. w-2's, pay stubs, tax returns, etc that prove you have the experience you're providing.
Phil, thank you so much for your response! I've been concerned about having to provide verif docs for my 05-08 experience as I no longer have W-2s or tax returns from then nor would it be possible to retrieve docs from FIL's closed business.

Can you direct me to some place where I can get help with formulating a good experience outline? I'm thinking that doing that and keeping my fingers crossed that my app won't be selected for investigation is my best bet...

Thanks again for your thoughts and advice!

-Maria
MJ23 is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #1391
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


Hopefully they won't ask.

I'd be happy to help you with the experience outline. I do offer a free app review to CT members. Complete your app and email it to me and I'll look it over.

I also offer exam prep materials with an awesome online practice exam program.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 06:31 PM   #1392
Member
 
tombeck's Avatar
 
Trade: roofing & general contracting
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 32
Rewards Points: 40

Re: California Licensing


My C39 classification has disappeared on my inactive license, (B & C39)...I've sent a letter - tried calling - All I can imagine is that when that WC rqrmnt came into effect for C39 they dropped my C39? Why? it was inactive. How would I get the C39 back on?

Thanks for your help
tombeck is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 07:19 PM   #1393
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


Correct. If you didn't have w/c on the license, they would remove the C-39 classification. The only way to get it back is to provide the cslb with a w/c cert. Whether or not they'll just add the C-39 back on the license without having you submit an add class app and pay the $75 filing fee... is unknown.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 08:22 PM   #1394
Registered User
 
MJ23's Avatar
 
Trade: Floor Covering
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3
Rewards Points: 10

Re: California Licensing


Quote:
Originally Posted by License Guru View Post
Hopefully they won't ask.

I'd be happy to help you with the experience outline. I do offer a free app review to CT members. Complete your app and email it to me and I'll look it over.

I also offer exam prep materials with an awesome online practice exam program.

That would be great. I'll shoot the app your way when I complete it, probably within the next few days or so. Do you offer exam prep materials specific to C-15 licensing?
MJ23 is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 08:24 PM   #1395
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


I do. Go to my profile and follow the link to my site.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 11:04 PM   #1396
Registered User
 
swiftyma's Avatar
 
Trade: c-33
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 18

Re: California Licensing


Hey Phil, Couple of questions.

When you get flagged in the CSLB system are you permanently flagged even after you get approved (4 years from initial "flagging" in my case)?

I have a C33 license. Say I want to get a C61 so I can start building/repairing decks and focus more on "total deck maintenance" will I still be flagged if I apply in like 5 years, and still need to provide an insane amount of paperwork to verify my experience?

Also, can I refinish a wood floor with my C33 license? The wording on the license leads me to believe I can, but I'm not positive.

Thanks
swiftyma is offline  
Old 11-11-2013, 11:05 PM   #1397
Registered User
 
diwase's Avatar
 
Trade: GC
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 5
Rewards Points: 10

Re: California Licensing


Phil - I think you're right about flagging Asian last names. As I explained to you in my private message, I'm being asked for all kinds of documentation for my Class B. And, I have an Asian last name. Go figure.

They didn't take my business classes, algebra, advanced math or my CA real estate license and appraisal courses into consideration at all. First I was told that they can't call my employer out of state, so they want 1099's and check stubs. Fine. Sent them. The Licensee Deputy approves and then they send me to an Experience analyst. She tells me that the 1099's are useless, because I, "could have earned the money doing anything". So why did you ask me to hunt down an old, handicapped prior employer 3,000 miles away to get the darn things?

She tells me that my application shows c6 work and not Class B. She sends me a form asking if I want to withdraw my application. I emailed Andrea S. and asked her since when cantilevering decks, framing additions, siding and roof work is millwork. She said it was millwork and not general building! How 'bout that? She asks me to provide permits and contracts. I explain that as a journeyman employee I'm not required to have either, and that legally my contractor employer isn't even required to keep those docs for more than 3 years. They then asked for client contacts, which I don't have as an employee.

She says that I need to go back to the elderly, sick employer 3,000 miles away and get a notarized letter from him outlying my duties. I included hours worked, duties by year for the 10 years through apprenticeship (4yrs) and journeyman level (6 years). What else should he document in the letter?

I do think I'm being targeted. When I explained that I felt that shuffling me from department to department for 10 months now is excessive, and I don't understand why they ask for documentation that they then tell me they can't use (like the 1099's and pay stubs), I'm told that I need permits and the notarized letter from my certifier. Wasn't his certification enough? No, because he was a foreman and not a contractor. Again, I have no legal reason to have permits as a journeyman. I think they just don't want to license me - possibly because I'm Asian.

I even included letters from people who can verify that I've done extensive work on my own homes. I offered to send in 200 material receipts to verify the work and was told that they weren't needed. What else can I send in to help with this?

Thanks!
diwase is offline  
Old 11-12-2013, 12:17 AM   #1398
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftyma View Post
Hey Phil, Couple of questions.

When you get flagged in the CSLB system are you permanently flagged even after you get approved (4 years from initial "flagging" in my case)?

I have a C33 license. Say I want to get a C61 so I can start building/repairing decks and focus more on "total deck maintenance" will I still be flagged if I apply in like 5 years, and still need to provide an insane amount of paperwork to verify my experience?

Also, can I refinish a wood floor with my C33 license? The wording on the license leads me to believe I can, but I'm not positive.

Thanks
I have never been aware of any shelf life for a flag. It's been my experience that once flagged, always flagged.

Having said that... the cslb makes up the rules as they go along, and every day could bring a new rule, or they could forget an old rule. It's a crap shoot with this agency.

It could be, that since the D class doesn't require an exam, they may just accept the experience on the app and add the class to the license. Plus, it's not a "critical class" so it could be just as easy as submitting the application.

If refinishing the wood floor is part of the overall C-33 project, you should be fine. But if the contract is to only refinish the floor... then no. You'd be working out of class.
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-12-2013, 12:33 AM   #1399
Calif Licensing Expert
 
License Guru's Avatar
 
Trade: Former California Contractors State License Board
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 1,829
Rewards Points: 1,806

Re: California Licensing


Quote:
Originally Posted by diwase View Post
Phil - I think you're right about flagging Asian last names. As I explained to you in my private message, I'm being asked for all kinds of documentation for my Class B. And, I have an Asian last name. Go figure.

They didn't take my business classes, algebra, advanced math or my CA real estate license and appraisal courses into consideration at all. First I was told that they can't call my employer out of state, so they want 1099's and check stubs. Fine. Sent them. The Licensee Deputy approves and then they send me to an Experience analyst. She tells me that the 1099's are useless, because I, "could have earned the money doing anything". So why did you ask me to hunt down an old, handicapped prior employer 3,000 miles away to get the darn things?

She tells me that my application shows c6 work and not Class B. She sends me a form asking if I want to withdraw my application. I emailed Andrea S. and asked her since when cantilevering decks, framing additions, siding and roof work is millwork. She said it was millwork and not general building! How 'bout that? She asks me to provide permits and contracts. I explain that as a journeyman employee I'm not required to have either, and that legally my contractor employer isn't even required to keep those docs for more than 3 years. They then asked for client contacts, which I don't have as an employee.

She says that I need to go back to the elderly, sick employer 3,000 miles away and get a notarized letter from him outlying my duties. I included hours worked, duties by year for the 10 years through apprenticeship (4yrs) and journeyman level (6 years). What else should he document in the letter?

I do think I'm being targeted. When I explained that I felt that shuffling me from department to department for 10 months now is excessive, and I don't understand why they ask for documentation that they then tell me they can't use (like the 1099's and pay stubs), I'm told that I need permits and the notarized letter from my certifier. Wasn't his certification enough? No, because he was a foreman and not a contractor. Again, I have no legal reason to have permits as a journeyman. I think they just don't want to license me - possibly because I'm Asian.

I even included letters from people who can verify that I've done extensive work on my own homes. I offered to send in 200 material receipts to verify the work and was told that they weren't needed. What else can I send in to help with this?

Thanks!
I may actually be speechless!!! Oh wait... no I'm not.

Your experience with the cslb just floors me!! How incompetent can one state agency be? Seriously?!? You give them what they ask for, what they have listed in their ridiculous list of acceptable items, then tell you they won't accept them. I truly wonder (often) why the patients are running the asylum!

My advice is to contact your State Representative! Show the rep the letter the cslb gave you with the options. Show the rep what you provided, per their list, and show the rep the response you received from the cslb.

It has been pointed out to the Board, directly, that the licensing unit is asking for docs that most applicants aren't required by law to need or obtain. Yet, they keep asking for them. Then they have the to reject those docs.

I wish I had proof in hand that the cslb is profiling Asian applicants, but they are just smart enough not to have put anything in writing... as far as I'm aware. I was just told that the license techs were verbally told to pull apps with Asian last names. So suggesting to a State Rep that you're being profiled would most likely be flat out rejected by the cslb. For me... I'd mention it anyway. Let the cslb hear the accusation so they know what they're doing is out in the public.

Like I said... I was almost speechless.

p.s. I just read your post to my wife and I could feel my blood pressure take a serious rise!!
__________________
Phil Cocciante
You've got Questions? I've got Answers!
License Guru is offline  
Old 11-12-2013, 12:40 AM   #1400
GC/carpenter
 
Calidecks's Avatar
 
Trade: Decking, Railing, Carpenter/General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Anaheim Hills, California (OC)
Posts: 38,579
Rewards Points: 4,160

Re: California Licensing


Quote:
Originally Posted by License Guru
I may actually be speechless!!! Oh wait... no I'm not. Your experience with the cslb just floors me!! How incompetent can one state agency be? Seriously?!? You give them what they ask for, what they have listed in their ridiculous list of acceptable items, then tell you they won't accept them. I truly wonder (often) why the patients are running the asylum! My advice is to contact your State Representative! Show the rep the letter the cslb gave you with the options. Show the rep what you provided, per their list, and show the rep the response you received from the cslb. It has been pointed out to the Board, directly, that the licensing unit is asking for docs that most applicants aren't required by law to need or obtain. Yet, they keep asking for them. Then they have the to reject those docs. I wish I had proof in hand that the cslb is profiling Asian applicants, but they are just smart enough not to have put anything in writing... as far as I'm aware. I was just told that the license techs were verbally told to pull apps with Asian last names. So suggesting to a State Rep that you're being profiled would most likely be flat out rejected by the cslb. For me... I'd mention it anyway. Let the cslb hear the accusation so they know what they're doing is out in the public. Like I said... I was almost speechless. p.s. I just read your post to my wife and I could feel my blood pressure take a serious rise!!
It's not even any of my business and I'm pissed!

Advertisement

Calidecks is online now  

Tags
application , california , contractors license , cslb , felonies , license guru , test


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Are Cost Plus Home Improvement Contracts Illegal in California? Will Path Business 10 05-21-2014 12:41 PM
Licensing School - California sa1245 Contractor Licensing 11 06-14-2013 12:21 PM
Exit Lights in California darren Electrical 17 03-23-2008 11:13 PM
Additional licensing Milhaus Remodeling 8 10-27-2007 10:34 AM
Solar Power Industry Dead In California w6ire Electrical 2 06-28-2007 08:57 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?