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Old 02-04-2008, 11:57 AM   #61
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I have been working for myself for the past 2 years doing low voltage and before that worked for a computer technology company as an operations manager which did both low voltage and data installations. I also worked for SBC as a technology specialist whihc was mostly thoery and desing not hands on. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.

1)I have a four year degree and I understand I can get 2 years credit for that. My experience was part time over the last 4 years, am I ok putting down the 4 years part time / 2 years experience and the 2 years for my business degree?

2) Things have not gone like I wanted them to and I may be filing a bankruptcy and I am concerned that I will not be able to get a bond. Would you suggest I get the bond before the app and before I would file a bankruptcy or do you think I could still get a bond after a recent (within months) bankruptcy?

3) I have friend who is a contractor and has an alarm company, would he be a good certifier for me and a C-7 or should I ask another friend who works for AT&T as an installer but does not have a license?

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1) If your 4 year degree is directly related to your trade then would be eligible for 2 years of credit. If not, then you would only receive 1 year credit.

2) A BK would not prohibit you from getting a bond, but your premium would most likely be higher. You wont be able to apply for a bond until you have submitted your CSLB app and have receive an Application Number from them.

3) If you are showing self employed experience, having a certifier who already holds the classification you are applying for is a must.

I would include your experience with SBC in addition to your field experience. Just word it so that it doesn't sound administrative. Having design experience in the low voltage field is valuable. A manager or supervisor with SBC would need to certify that experience.

I hope this helps.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:13 PM   #62
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I have a question. It looks like the board is asking for details on any and all convictions. I don't even remember any of my traffic citations 15 or so years ago. How much detail do they really want and are they looking for convictions as an adult or juvenile also? Where would I get this information? Thanks again.
If you've ever been arrested and charged with a crime, no matter the outcome, you will need to list it.

Even if you were 17 and it was exsponged, you still need to list it. (I'm not saying this is your situation, just saying)

I had a client who checked the NO box on his app stating that he had never been convicted, his app was rejected. I questioned him after the fact and he said that he had been put in cuffs, tossed in jail for a night for being drunk in public. I said...... UH.. You were arrested! He didn't see it that way.


Anyway, if you've only received traffic citations then you don't need to disclose those.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:21 PM   #63
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If I have a parent corporation with separate divisions, how do I apply? one license for the corporation and a few DBA's? or separate licenses for each DBA?
That's a tough question! I would suggest one corporate license with dba's. BUT.... I would also suggest that you consult a tax or corporate atty.

Lastly, I would suggest that on your contracts you be sure that the client knows what the corporate name and license number is. I say this because if you have a contract that shows a DBA, the customer may try to look up your business on the CSLB's web site under that DBA and may not find it. The B&P Code requires all of this in the section regarding contracts, I just wanted to point it out.
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License Guru,

Thanks for the reply. Let me clarify a couple of things for you.

My degree is a Bachelors of Science Business Administration with a concentration in Information technology will I get two years credit if I am going for a C-7?

I do not have contact with my SBC supervisor he is retired and I don't know anyone with a C-7 I can ask to certify me. My only choices are the two I mentioned; the alarm contractor and my friend who works at AT&T as an installer but has no license. Other than that it is people I have done work for. What do you suggest? Would I get denied using either of these listed above?

Thanks again.
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My degree is a Bachelors of Science Business Administration with a concentration in Information technology will I get two years credit if I am going for a C-7?

I do not have contact with my SBC supervisor he is retired and I don't know anyone with a C-7 I can ask to certify me. My only choices are the two I mentioned; the alarm contractor and my friend who works at AT&T as an installer but has no license. Other than that it is people I have done work for. What do you suggest? Would I get denied using either of these listed above?
I suggest you submit your college transcripts with the app. They will have to be reviewed by the Licensing Unit and determine if you will get 1 or 2 years credit. I dont know if IT degree will convert for the C-7. It may, I just don't know.

The alarm contractor should have a C-7. He will be an excellent certifier for the time period of your self employment. For the SBC period, yes, use the co-worker. There is a box in the certifier section for co-worker.

You won't get denied. If they reject your app, they will send letter telling you why and you have 90 days to respond with corrections. But I think you'll do fine.
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Wow! What a great thread. Thanks License Guru.

What can I do if the GC I worked for over the past 5 years refuses to sign the certification of work experience? I worked for him, but not really as an employee. I was paid for the work I did, but it was up to me to file my own taxes. He didn't 1099 me. I think he filed a worker comp waiver showing he had no employees and doesn't want to get into trouble by showing I worked for him. Maybe I should just file with self-employed experience. What do you think?
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Wow! What a great thread. Thanks License Guru.

What can I do if the GC I worked for over the past 5 years refuses to sign the certification of work experience? I worked for him, but not really as an employee. I was paid for the work I did, but it was up to me to file my own taxes. He didn't 1099 me. I think he filed a worker comp waiver showing he had no employees and doesn't want to get into trouble by showing I worked for him. Maybe I should just file with self-employed experience. What do you think?
Thanks! I'm very happy to help.

You could file self employed but then you'd still need a licensed GC to certify your experience. Do you know some one else who is familiar with your work?
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Does the form have to be signed by him, or can I fax it to him and he can fax it back?
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A faxed signature is acceptable. But make sure it's a fairly clean fax. All docs are scanned into a system called IWAS. So the techs at the board are looking at a scanned copy. A doc that has been "overly" faxed can be hard to read in IWAS and could cause it to be rejected.
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Thanks for the help I very much appreciate it.

Here is what I am going to do and please let me know if you approve. I am going to submit my transcripts with the application for the education credit. I will ask the alarm contractor to certify my full time / self employment experience for the last 2 years and hope I get two years for the education.

But I do have part time experience between 2000 and 2005.

(1)How can I include my part time experience to ensure success since the alarm contractor has only known me the last two years and not since 2000.

(2)Do I also have to have a certifier for the period of 2000 to 2005?

(3) Do they need official transcripts or unofficial.

(4)Should I just submit with the full time experience and education and then if denied use the part time?

By the way I didn't work with my friend at AT&T he just works there and knows what I have done since we have worked on the same projects in the past.

I noticed you have a company do you have a service completing applications and submitting?

Thanks so much again.
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(1)How can I include my part time experience to ensure success since the alarm contractor has only known me the last two years and not since 2000.

(2)Do I also have to have a certifier for the period of 2000 to 2005?

(3) Do they need official transcripts or unofficial.

(4)Should I just submit with the full time experience and education and then if denied use the part time?

By the way I didn't work with my friend at AT&T he just works there and knows what I have done since we have worked on the same projects in the past.

I noticed you have a company do you have a service completing applications and submitting?
1) 2 years of self employed with C-7 certifier, employed experience certified by co-worker and transcripts should put you over the top.

3) The requirement is official, seal transcripts but they will accept unofficial. I believe the college will send you unofficial transcripts and that is acceptable.

4) See #1

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That's a tough question! I would suggest one corporate license with dba's. BUT.... I would also suggest that you consult a tax or corporate atty.

Lastly, I would suggest that on your contracts you be sure that the client knows what the corporate name and license number is. I say this because if you have a contract that shows a DBA, the customer may try to look up your business on the CSLB's web site under that DBA and may not find it. The B&P Code requires all of this in the section regarding contracts, I just wanted to point it out.
Do the DBA's need to be listed on the application?
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Ok,

But let me clarify the AT&T tech is a friend not a co-worker.

So your saying I should turn in two work history forms, one for the self employment period with C-7 certifier and the other for the part time from 2000 to 2005 with my friend at AT&T certifying along with the transcripts?

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As an application technician at the CSLB I processed 1000's of applications. Never did I, or any other tech that I know of, call the certifier to verify experience.

State law does require that the CSLB do random checks (I believe it's around 3% of all applications received, but I will have to check that) to verify experience. But like I said, I nor anyone I worked with ever called to verify.

Thank you all for your questions. Keep them coming.

I have been in the tades full time since 2003. before that I worked in a sesonal job and worked winters under the table. I have submitted my app for my b lic. and so far my employer has had a phone interview to verify my experiance I've been contacted to call in for a verifacation interview, and just today I've recieved a letter from an "enforcement represenative"
stating I have "ten working days from the date of this letter to mail documentation of experiance. failure to do so could result in the denial of your application"

enforcement Representative????
I guess you worked for the CSLB in a kinder gentler time
I'm just wondering is this s.o.p. or did I piss somebody off some how
anyy info or advice would really be helpful
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Ok,

But let me clarify the AT&T tech is a friend not a co-worker.

So your saying I should turn in two work history forms, one for the self employment period with C-7 certifier and the other for the part time from 2000 to 2005 with my friend at AT&T certifying along with the transcripts?

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Yes. That's what I'm saying.
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I have been in the tades full time since 2003. before that I worked in a sesonal job and worked winters under the table. I have submitted my app for my b lic. and so far my employer has had a phone interview to verify my experiance I've been contacted to call in for a verifacation interview, and just today I've recieved a letter from an "enforcement represenative"
stating I have "ten working days from the date of this letter to mail documentation of experiance. failure to do so could result in the denial of your application"

enforcement Representative????
I guess you worked for the CSLB in a kinder gentler time
I'm just wondering is this s.o.p. or did I piss somebody off some how
anyy info or advice would really be helpful
Thanks
Wow, I'm really shocked. I suppose it is possible that there has been a change in procedure that my friends at the board haven't told me about. But I'm wondering why, after talking to your employer, they continued to dig??

Who is the Enf. Rep?? I still know many of them as I used to work in the Enforcement unit as well.
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I have been in the tades full time since 2003. before that I worked in a sesonal job and worked winters under the table. I have submitted my app for my b lic. and so far my employer has had a phone interview to verify my experiance I've been contacted to call in for a verifacation interview, and just today I've recieved a letter from an "enforcement represenative"
stating I have "ten working days from the date of this letter to mail documentation of experiance. failure to do so could result in the denial of your application"

enforcement Representative????
I guess you worked for the CSLB in a kinder gentler time
I'm just wondering is this s.o.p. or did I piss somebody off some how
anyy info or advice would really be helpful
Thanks
Motofig,

I talked to a very good friend of my at the Board today. He said that he has no direct knowledge that they are pulling apps for experience review but said that is it entirely possible. He and I both agreed that when I worked there, and over the last 5+ years, they have not been "actively" pulling apps for review. He did say that when he first started working there, they did take apps from him, but that hasn't happened for quite sometime.

Let me know who the Enf Rep is. Could very well be someone I know. I'd be happy to call them to get more detail.

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Wow, I'm really shocked. I suppose it is possible that there has been a change in procedure that my friends at the board haven't told me about. But I'm wondering why, after talking to your employer, they continued to dig??

Who is the Enf. Rep?? I still know many of them as I used to work in the Enforcement unit as well.

This letter comes out of the West Covina office. The R.E. is Pat Tomashek

To muddy the waters even more my employer uses a company who (on paper directly employes all his workers and then leases them to his company) So I will have to get a letter from the leasing co to verify all this

Good times
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Just to be sure I understand the effect of bankruptcy on a contractor license... there's no adverse affect on the license itself right? A bankruptcy will just cause a higher rate for the bond. (And by the way, thanks for your expertise and free advice License Guru.)

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