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Old 05-14-2019, 07:50 PM   #61
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It's not rare it's bogus, the guy flagged a 2000 foot run because, like all dowsers, he used where he thought it would have been run, combined with some good old fashion luck.
No its not luck and we did this countless times over years.
That line snaked all over hell.
He would have better odds of hitting the powerball twice.
I have laid hundreds of miles of water ditch. It was my final occupation before I went out on my own. I kind know exactly wtf I am talking about.

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These are standard equipment for every single water district inspector I ever encountered.
Hell of a hocus pocus racket.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...o-detect-water

This sums it up.

I will add... I have never ever seen anyone witch water. We looked for utility trenches on virgin ground. I have seen it be accurate 1000+ times.

When its your job to dig up each spot with a shovel to spot a **** show of a line, you are uber grateful for the guy that can actually use them.

Universities and every pencil pushing know it all can come get his ass in the grass for a decade and he can go out there and randomly dig spots with a shovel.

In the mean time me and Bret would be 2000 feet ahead by the end of the day.

We use it because it works.
A jackleg that studies can kma.

I been there and done that. I dont give a darn if its electromagnetic field, Jesus, or a medium. It saved my butt countless times. On virgin ground in bfe it works outstanding.

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These are standard equipment for every single water district inspector I ever encountered.
Hell of a hocus pocus racket.

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Do your water district inspectors carry tarot cards aswell?

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Do your water district inspectors carry tarot cards aswell?

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Yez... They used a Ouija board to summon me to the jobs.
I told them if they witched a spot wrong I would swallow their soul.

They never missed.
Except Dave.
He pissed his pants and it interferred.

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Both my mother in law and my oldest daughter can find a water line anywhere, every time, with 2 bent pieces of copper wire. My wife and my youngest daughter couldn't find that same line if it was already exposed.


It's weird, I don't understand it, and I won't say it's legit, but on more than one occasion it sure has saved me a lot of digging.
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Metal rods in the proximity of the magnetic field will induce a current in the metal and this will create an opposing magnetic field. The opposing magnetic fields create a torque similar to the way torque is generated in a DC motor, and this will cause the metal to rotate towards a point of equilibrium, which for the rod is when it's parallel to the wire assuming the run of wire is also straight.

By the way, did you know that the human body can store a charge which is equal to about 250 picofarads... This in comparison equals to a stored charge that can be as high as 25,000V.
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Metal rods in the proximity of the magnetic field will induce a current in the metal and this will create an opposing magnetic field. The opposing magnetic fields create a torque similar to the way torque is generated in a DC motor, and this will cause the metal to rotate towards a point of equilibrium, which for the rod is when it's parallel to the wire assuming the run of wire is also straight.

By the way, did you know that the human body can store a charge which is equal to about 250 picofarads... This in comparison equals to a stored charge that can be as high as 25,000V.
How many DC power services are there? In my neck of the woods the magnetic feild would change direction 60 times a second....so it's nothing like a DC motor. Take your dowing rods right now and see how they interact with your eletrical service.

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Yez... They used a Ouija board to summon me to the jobs.
I told them if they witched a spot wrong I would swallow their soul.

They never missed.
Except Dave.
He pissed his pants and it interferred.

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Dowsing work the same as a Ouija board, its an ideomotor response.
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How many DC power services are there? In my neck of the woods the magnetic feild would change direction 60 times a second....so it's nothing like a DC motor. Take your dowing rods right now and see how they interact with your eletrical service.
I would move if I was you... God only knows what's going on in the boonies you at
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If it actually worked you would be able to suspend the wires on a jig and they would move as opposed to being held in your hands where they can spin with the slightest movement of your arms.

As you said it:

"requires the conductor to travel through the changing EM field"

And if this was true it would work infinitly better to just use a compass., which would be more accurate. But for some reason two bent welding rods held in your hands are more accurate than a compass.


I use good ole metal coat hangers inside two pieces of 1/2" copper pipe.
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It would have been nice to have a dowsing expert on the job today.
I wound this service up with an auger attachment on the mini ex.
The marking service does not mark beyond the meter, which is where this is.

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I really hate it when that happens

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Both my mother in law and my oldest daughter can find a water line anywhere, every time, with 2 bent pieces of copper wire. My wife and my youngest daughter couldn't find that same line if it was already exposed.


It's weird, I don't understand it, and I won't say it's legit, but on more than one occasion it sure has saved me a lot of digging.
Suuuuuuuure they can.

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Suuuuuuuure they can.

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Suuuuuuuure they can.

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If I include the time I worked with dad, and being on my own I have over 50 years digging around literally thousands of underground utilities.

Electrical lines, gas lines, water and sewer. .
for the "most" part run in a straight line.

Electric lines, find the meter, find transformer tub or where it goes up a pole to a transformer, good chance it's in a straight line, same goes for sewer, water, had, etc.

Personally, I always 811 it, but in assessing site before locators show up, I'm looking for the beginning and end of that particular utility. Then I look for depressions in the yard, landscaping where the ditch may have settled. Then I look for cracks in driveways and sidewalks.

Through the years I've probably had 20 guys swear they could witch, I was never impressed.

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If I include the time I worked with dad, and being on my own I have over 50 years digging around literally thousands of underground utilities.

Electrical lines, gas lines, water and sewer. .
for the "most" part run in a straight line.

Electric lines, find the meter, find transformer tub or where it goes up a pole to a transformer, good chance it's in a straight line, same goes for sewer, water, had, etc.

Personally, I always 811 it, but in assessing site before locators show up, I'm looking for the beginning and end of that particular utility. Then I look for depressions in the yard, landscaping where the ditch may have settled. Then I look for cracks in driveways and sidewalks.

Through the years I've probably had 20 guys swear they could witch, I was never impressed.

But that's just me.

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yup. Would never rely on witching or dowsing, or whatever the eff folks want to call it. I just know there's something to it, but not enough to rely on.

Old Tom at the airport though, he was good.
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It is all the waiting in Ques for national health care that makes the Canadians more informed as they read all the old paper magazines, Thus Socialism = raises I.Q.s of the Nort landers.... nearly as smart as Cubans and Venezuelans....nothing like near starvation to sharpen one's wits.....

If the Canadian Government doesn't waste $ on Nuclear bombs and world domination, Just What is it doing with 50% of Canadians' money?

There are USA & Confederate Civil War reenactors that have more firepower then most Canadian military Units....

See Russian Authors for further proof, of more Gulags = better writing by inmates.....

I Just missed Post # 79

Never said I could find water = dousing, found lots of tile in on farms, some things in town....with bent coat hanger wires.

My coat hangers haven't Yet pointed at the Earth's Moon.... Sorry NASA.

Nothing like not digging a trench by hand to further experimentation....
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It is all the waiting in Ques for national health care that makes the Canadians more informed as they read all the old paper magazines, Thus Socialism = raises I.Q.s of the Nort landers.... nearly as smart as Cubans and Venezuelans....nothing like near starvation to sharpen one's wits.....

If the Canadian Government doesn't waste $ on Nuclear bombs and world domination, Just What is it doing with 50% of Canadians' money?

There are USA & Confederate Civil War reenactors that have more firepower then most Canadian military Units....

See Russian Authors for further proof, of more Gulags = better writing by inmates.....
burn... !!!
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