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Old 05-11-2019, 08:45 AM   #41
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Also just curiouswhy you have a truck... You "wont start your truck for $100"

Lol! You are carrying a suitcase sized wand holder.
Get a little car or a scooter, Scooter.


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I doubt you have any friends. I also doubt you have much money.
You make locating sound a little too complex. End of the day 7-10 K and a man can buy a locator. Most just dont because they would rather pay someone like you because it is..... MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper.

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I have money. And it's because I don't work for cheapskates like you that expect pros to work for nothing, live under a bridge, eat CheesyMac every day and drive a 1977 Yamaha dirt bike.
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Also just curiouswhy you have a truck... You "wont start your truck for $100"

Lol! You are carrying a suitcase sized wand holder.
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[QUOTE=480sparky;7540347]Take a look in the mirror.


I have money. And it's because I don't work for cheapskates like you that expect pros to work for nothing, live under a bridge, eat CheesyMac every day and drive a 1977 Yamaha dirt bike.[/QOTE]

I doubt that.
If a hundred from a friend to go out and tone a well pump power service is too little I am betting your guys if you have any make 15 an hour.
Its a two way street. My locator has to have tree work done and calls me.

Its not exactly hard to throw a locator into 60 hz power mode and listen for a tone. Enjoy your beach house.
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Take a look in the mirror.


I have money. And it's because I don't work for cheapskates like you that expect pros to work for nothing, live under a bridge, eat CheesyMac every day and drive a 1977 Yamaha dirt bike.[/QOTE]

I doubt that.
If a hundred from a friend to go out and tone a well pump power service is too little I am betting your guys if you have any make 15 an hour.
Its a two way street. My locator has to have tree work done and calls me.

Its not exactly hard to throw a locator into 60 hz power mode and listen for a tone. Enjoy your beach house.
You are a sad, pathetic little man.

If all you can do is think you know others, then I'm done with the likes of you.


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You are a sad, pathetic little man.

If all you can do is think you know others, then I'm done with the likes of you.


Enjoy your beer-and-pizza-money subs.
You are the one that knows others bud.
My guy has an ash I am fixing to take down for a steal. Last year it dropped a 20" limb that crushed his car I removed for jack.
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As of yet I've never been asked to locate a BORED in utility.... I'll make an attempt to find a metal and a plastic piped example to test my "witching " abilities...

All the FIELD TILES I've found were installed by hand or machine tools that disturbed the soil profile, (one can generally located dug in lines hereabouts by just careful observation of the soil color and textures that are created by the mixing of the formerly sorted dirt types that occour in this glacial till region.

None were used for grounding electrical services....


Some people's body chemistry short circuits the small voltages/currents created, I'd try it with some DRY gloves......

dowsing for water is a Whole different Animal, firstly the use of a invented forked willow branch by the majority of its practitioners...

I claim to have no know skills for finding water,beyond common sense and a little tiny bit of geo science.
It is funny to me that almost all the practices of wise women that were disregarded by early science based M.D.s are NOW used as the basis for several Billions of dollars of pharmaceuticals and procedures....leeches, Mare's Milk, bleeding, Willow bark....etc...

The strangest water pipe finding story I have is the one where the City snow plowed the stop box when plowing my cousin's sidewalk that was contiguous to the street,

I couldn't get a good read so we just started digging at the house termination back to the street...

Some greedy plumber had installed 6 stop boxes where originally, the two homes shared one.....

There was hardly any earth left between the homes...

And the plumber/ thieves had past on out of this life.
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As of yet I've never been asked to locate a BORED in utility.... I'll make an attempt to find a metal and a plastic piped example to test my "witching " abilities...

All the FIELD TILES I've found were installed by hand or machine tools that disturbed the soil profile, (one can generally located dug in lines hereabouts by just careful observation of the soil color and textures that are created by the mixing of the formerly sorted dirt types that occour in this glacial till region.

None were used for grounding electrical services....


Some people's body chemistry short circuits the small voltages/currents created, I'd try it with some DRY gloves......

dowsing for water is a Whole different Animal, firstly the use of a invented forked willow branch by the majority of its practitioners...

I claim to have no know skills for finding water,beyond common sense and a little tiny bit of geo science.
It is funny to me that almost all the practices of wise women that were disregarded by early science based M.D.s are NOW used as the basis for several Billions of dollars of pharmaceuticals and procedures....leeches, Mare's Milk, bleeding, Willow bark....etc...

The strangest water pipe finding story I have is the one where the City snow plowed the stop box when plowing my cousin's sidewalk that was contiguous to the street,

I couldn't get a good read so we just started digging at the house termination back to the street...

Some greedy plumber had installed 6 stop boxes where originally, the two homes shared one.....

There was hardly any earth left between the homes...

And the plumber/ thieves had past on out of this life.
If it actually worked you would be able to suspend the wires on a jig and they would move as opposed to being held in your hands where they can spin with the slightest movement of your arms.

As you said it:

"requires the conductor to travel through the changing EM field"

And if this was true it would work infinitly better to just use a compass., which would be more accurate. But for some reason two bent welding rods held in your hands are more accurate than a compass.
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A needle (magnetic) compass is designed to point toward the North magnetic pole using the Earth's mostly UN-MOVING magnetic field.

You don't need to move a magnetic compass for it to point Northward...

But "witching" rods require movement through a changing EM field....

The slower you walk, the less the torque on the wires, all other things being equal.

If you seen it done, Would You know it works? Or would you insist its a "magic" trick?
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A needle (magnetic) compass is designed to point toward the North magnetic pole using the Earth's mostly UN-MOVING magnetic field.

You don't need to move a magnetic compass for it to point Northward...

But "witching" rods require movement through a changing EM field....

The slower you walk, the less the torque on the wires, all other things being equal.

If you seen it done, Would You know it works? Or would you insist its a "magic" trick?
Ohh I see, a super sensitive compass won't react to this changing magnetic field because it's moving...but the field is strong enough to cause heavy welding rods held in your hands to swing inward.

I'd insist it's a magic trick because it doesn't work, it's complete and udder horsesh!t, it's a real as the fvcking easter bunny.

Never has and witcher been able to prove he can detect anything reliably, even when offered large sums of money. Never has any scientist been able to explain how it works.

I even had a dowser tell me it only works when you hold the rods because it uses your brain waves to guide the rods.....FVCKING BRAIN WAVES, that was his brilliant explanation!
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Ohh I see, a super sensitive compass won't react to this changing magnetic field because it's moving...but the field is strong enough to cause heavy welding rods held in your hands to swing inward.



I'd insist it's a magic trick because it doesn't work, it's complete and udder horsesh!t, it's a real as the fvcking easter bunny.



Never has and witcher been able to prove he can detect anything reliably, even when offered large sums of money. Never has any scientist been able to explain how it works.



I even had a dowser tell me it only works when you hold the rods because it uses your brain waves to guide the rods.....FVCKING BRAIN WAVES, that was his brilliant explanation!
I had a boss with a son that could witch accurate as can be.
It is very individual specific and we didnt use welding rods. We use the wire from locate flags. Weling rods are too damn heavy.
I could try it all day long as could every other guy on the crew and we would be all over the place. I watched the guy lay out 2000' of water trench and flag it every 100' and every flag was dead on balls.

Again though he is the only one I have ever seen do it.

Well wishing with a peach limb was only done by certain people back in the day and it is just something about their bodys current. They are rare.

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Btw poor bret had to do it a lot out in bfe.
Most of the old rural lines we revamped had no tracer.
We had to spot every 100 feet to mak sure we didnt hit the existing. Him and his little flag wires saved my back.

In a city though were everything has been disturbed 100 times ot doesnt work for crap.

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I had a boss with a son that could witch accurate as can be.
It is very individual specific and we didnt use welding rods. We use the wire from locate flags. Weling rods are too damn heavy.
I could try it all day long as could every other guy on the crew and we would be all over the place. I watched the guy lay out 2000' of water trench and flag it every 100' and every flag was dead on balls.

Again though he is the only one I have ever seen do it.

Well wishing with a peach limb was only done by certain people back in the day and it is just something about their bodys current. They are rare.

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It's not rare it's bogus, the guy flagged a 2000 foot run because, like all dowsers, he used where he thought it would have been run, combined with some good old fashion luck.
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It's not rare it's bogus, the guy flagged a 2000 foot run because, like all dowsers, he used where he thought it would have been run, combined with some good old fashion luck.
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Kind of, think most of the time it's BS but on the other hand there are people that are definitely more tuned into the esoteric and otherworldly phenomena.
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Kind of, think most of the time it's BS but on the other hand there are people that are definitely more tuned into the esoteric and otherworldly phenomena.
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I do not believe in any of this stuff. Never have. Except an old pilot at the airport showed me how to do it with 2 welding rods.

And it worked. Over and over.

the wishbone slapping the guy in the gut bit - yeah....no. That's theatrics.

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