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Old 01-19-2014, 09:13 PM   #21
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From what I surmise, quality of installation is a lot more important then brand of heatpump. I have two bids so far and I plan on hiring a contractor this week.The prices are similar, can you give me some examples of questions I should ask the HVAC contractors to distinguish which installer might do a better job?
Each performed load calcs, "we seal our ducts"...blah blah. Beyond the obvious, not sure how to distinguish a good installation.
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How many guys will be on job site? How many days will I take to complete job? Hit your local Angies List and BBB. How many service techs does the company have on call on any given night? What types of parts do they not carry on their vans pertaining to the brand of system you are getting. How long will it take to get those parts? Any one can sell you a system, but how well will you be treated if there is a problem is what you need to determine.
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How important is a variable speed air handler? It wasn't included in my hvac guys estimate, worth the upgrade?
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Variable Speed air handlers are very quiet and provide the optimum level of comfort by utilizing the fan speed to decrease the humidity. I really like them from a techie point of view and sell them almost exclusively.

Once again, you need some other equipment (AHRI) matches to gain more SEER and EER.

IMHO, I like them!
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Not sure about other brands but I have a Bryant evolution heat pump and electric furnace on my house and its amazing. The heat pump runs solo to about 12 degrees then the back up kicks on lower than that but the heat pump still runs. I've been 100% satisfied. It costs me as much to heat and cool my house now, around 2,000sf 2 story with tall vaulted ceilings as it did with an oil furnace in my house before my addition which was 600sf ranch with 8' ceilings.
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How important is a variable speed air handler? It wasn't included in my hvac guys estimate, worth the upgrade?
Totally worth every penny. BUT I'd be leery and find out why they left that option out.

Too advanced for them? Did they profile your buying capabilities? Ductwork constraints?

Good service means they would've mentioned something about it and had the conversation at least...

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How much is electricity per kh/hr down there? We pay eight cents during the winter and ten cents during the summer. Nat. gas is ninety seven cents a therm. Here it works out well because we have a lot of heat pump days. I would think that down there it would be the way to go as well. But, the cost electricity and gas are the big determinants. Not a fan of condensing furnaces, perhaps they are great for those with the big fancy homes, or, a few other settings. They require more maintenance, and seem to "age"quicker than the standard 80%. I really appreciate the old dinasores (spelling), I appreciate the lack of inducer fan, and those heat exchangers, man, almost never find a crack in them.
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Totally worth every penny. BUT I'd be leery and find out why they left that option out.

Too advanced for them? Did they profile your buying capabilities? Ductwork constraints?

Good service means they would've mentioned something about it and had the conversation at least...

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They said the company rep recommends against it, that they've have problems with it lately. He suggested simplicity. The unit has 3 speeds but must be adjusted manually.
It was a $1300 upgrade...soooo, I passed. Install a week from today.
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The newer X13 motors made in the last year and a half have had a problem. The VS motors haven't.

The only time the VS motors have had a problem, is when the duct work was under sized for the unit.
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Around here the undersized duct thing happens a bit. Replacement parts for v.s. motors aren't readily available either.

I see the benefits, but, I still think the drawbacks outweigh the benefits.
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They said the company rep recommends against it, that they've have problems with it lately. He suggested simplicity. The unit has 3 speeds but must be adjusted manually.
It was a $1300 upgrade...soooo, I passed. Install a week from today.
There is an outfit here, that will start the install thirty minutes after signing the paper. They don't want to give you any room to change your mind.
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There is an outfit here, that will start the install thirty minutes after signing the paper. They don't want to give you any room to change your mind.
That's scary... I wonder if they service the same minute you call them?
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There is an outfit here, that will start the install thirty minutes after signing the paper. They don't want to give you any room to change your mind.
What I would give for an electrical sub with that policy......

Besides trust in my choice of installer, how would I determine if the duct size being installed is ample. Is there a good web site I can do my own load calculations, get sizes ect?

I trust the installer, but I'd like to have some knowledge before I talk with him about trunk size, number of registers. He is really easy to work with so far, I'm sure if I had some suggestions he would entertain them.
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Try this one.

http://loadcalc.net/
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Another question,
They just dropped off the unit, it's a goodman.
The quote clearly states Coleman. I raised a little hell and they said they would make it right, but told me that the goodman is USA made and had a better warranty.
I'm in the field and don't have time to do a bunch of online research. Left a message for my hvac in hometown.....
Any thoughts on goodman vrs Coleman,
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Hometown guy just got back to me. He said they're both cheap entry-level units. He says don't believe the bad reputation it's usually bad installing, and they are actually pretty decent units. There probably within 50 bucks of each other. And I should just go ahead and get the Goodman installed because it's here. He doesn't think they're trying to make any extra money on me and is an honest mistake probably.
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They are both about the same (decent as long and you keep the coils clean, and the dogs away. Warranties should be the same as well. Make sure that you register the equipment a.s.a.p. . It's a simple straightforward process that will extend the warranty from 5 years to 10 years.

You might want to make sure the Goodman supply house is nearby. But don't fret on the gear.
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If they switched the equipment so easily on you, I wonder what else they may be switching??

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