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Old 01-06-2014, 07:39 PM   #41
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I dunno about the tesp. I'm sure it's the same size as what came out.


I don't think there is a combustion analyzer..
When going from an 80% to a 90% plus, the furnace should be smaller. Since it outputs more heat. It also needs to move air per BTU then an 80% furnace.

A Combustion analyzer is used to set up the burner properly. If one wasn't used, it wasn't set up properly. If your lucky, they at least checked the manifold pressure. Cross your fingers they did.
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Old 01-06-2014, 07:59 PM   #42
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The unit itself is much smaller...


I'm in a small market, and I use these guys a couple times a year on additions and remodels...
I trust they set it up right, and will stand behind it

I'm not worried
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New furnaces are physically much smaller then older furnaces were. A new 120,000 BTU input 98% efficient furnace is only about 1/2 the physical size height of a 30 year old 80,000 BTU 80%er.
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New furnaces are physically much smaller then older furnaces were. A new 120,000 BTU input 98% efficient furnace is only about 1/2 the physical size height of a 30 year old 80,000 BTU 80%er.
you forgot weight too sometimes haha
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Sorry guys, thanks for all the replies, I've been working.

I got the invoice. It's a 70k Dave Lennox signature 98% modulating.

$540 wifi thermostat.
$1700 for a Lennox Pure Air filtration system.
4" alum flue liner, maybe for the water heater?
PVC vent to outside wall
$379 Earthquake valve
$169 Surge protector
$159 filter
2 $159 CO detectors
$undisclosed "comfort club" year maintenance


Kind of looks like he got the undercoating and all the extras at huge markups. Just generally non-informed decisions.
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Sorry guys, thanks for all the replies, I've been working. I got the invoice. It's a 70k Dave Lennox signature 98% modulating. $540 wifi thermostat. $1700 for a Lennox Pure Air filtration system. 4" alum flue liner, maybe for the water heater? PVC vent to outside wall $379 Earthquake valve $169 Surge protector $159 filter 2 $159 CO detectors $undisclosed "comfort club" year maintenance Kind of looks like he got the undercoating and all the extras at huge markups. Just generally non-informed decisions.
He got all the bells and whistles
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Yeah, you don't pick up that Mod furnace for a thousand bucks wholesale.

Nice to see they lined the chimney like they should for the water heater. Lots of companies don't, and problems arise later.

HEPA filtration, those things aren't cheap wholesale wise either.

Looks like they asked/suggested equipment/upgrades, and he just agreed.
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Is that 2 $159 CO detectors or 2 CO detectors for $159?

I have a rental with a Lennox in it that is about 10 years old.
All I can say is I hope they don't make the new Lennox like the old.
That thing puts out the most annoying high frequency whine when it runs.
I'm glad I don't live there and have to listen to that day in and day out.
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those filtration systems can wreck havoc with static pressures if not maintained. As a result, this could lead to premature breakdowns with the v.s. Motors.

If one its going to sell the fancy gear, make sure the customer knows what they are getting.
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I though he got the external HEPA filter. The one that draws air out of the return and puts it back in the return.
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I don't know the details of the Lennox filtration setup. However, if the filter isn't changed /washed, (likely needed to be performed on a more frequent basis), static pressure issues are likely to arise.

I am not hating on the fancy gear. But there is more to that stuff than "slightly higher" install bills. Its critical that both the homeowner and the installer perform due diligence.

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