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Old 02-19-2014, 05:59 PM   #21
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Really your question is kind of odd and it business sense it really doesnt make any sense..

So you say you are a GC ...

Dont you get all your price from your sub before you actually bid your job or are you just guessing at it ... then getting the job and later finding pricing to get the job completed...

Dont tell me you are one of those contractors that go around bidding with out getting all your pricing together before submitting your bid ...

Dont you realize we all mark stuff up... just like you should ... in all reality if your subs were higher wouldnt you profit more by marking up your subs to your customer..

As for the other guys that think they are doing the industry a favour or their customers a favour giving cheap prices is only fooling themselves..

Charge what you are worth .. charge as much as you can this is simple economics... or did you not show up for school that day..

It really amazes me that lots of OMS think they are being a super hero by giving it away... problem could be a self worth issue..

Any how I could preech all day on what you should and shouldn't charge but it could be an absolute waste of my time trying to pound it in..
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Really your question is kind of odd and it business sense it really doesnt make any sense..

So you say you are a GC ...

Dont you get all your price from your sub before you actually bid your job or are you just guessing at it ... then getting the job and later finding pricing to get the job completed...

Dont tell me you are one of those contractors that go around bidding with out getting all your pricing together before submitting your bid ...

Dont you realize we all mark stuff up... just like you should ... in all reality if your subs were higher wouldnt you profit more by marking up your subs to your customer..

As for the other guys that think they are doing the industry a favour or their customers a favour giving cheap prices is only fooling themselves..

Charge what you are worth .. charge as much as you can this is simple economics... or did you not show up for school that day..

It really amazes me that lots of OMS think they are being a super hero by giving it away... problem could be a self worth issue..

Any how I could preech all day on what you should and shouldn't charge but it could be an absolute waste of my time trying to pound it in..
OS and others.... I don't think the OP's question is strange/dumb.

I'm a GC, and I also (of later years) buy as principal and flip at my timing/convenience.

I do alot of my own work, but have always subed HVAC....primarily because I know nothing about AC and can't do tinning.

For the same equipment, I get bids that vary by almost 100% also... and don't give me some crap that it is the quality of work.

It would be both prudent/smart/intelligent for us as GC's (or anyone) to know the approximate material costs of what we are subing out ......

HVAC seems to be the only trade that it is difficult to obtain approximate material (furnace/ac units).

Besides smart on someones part to understand material costs before buying/evaluating a bid.... it might save HVAC contractors alot of competive/repetitive trips in people having to obtain multiple bids. (I realize that it might hinder excessive markups on equipment also.)

Then the industry, GC, and Joe Phuck could make an informed legitimate and fair decision.

Yes, I understand that a volume shop may get discounts, but the fact remains that HVAC units are difficult to asertain the APPROXIMATE costs involved, or even a manufacturers suggested retail.

I have no idea why the HVAC trade has developed in that manner.

Just saying.

(By the way, for years I had a HVAC shop that I could trust implicitly, did not have to competitive bid a thing they did.... they were honest competant, reasonable and fairly priced their work...they would even tell me their price on units....but the father retired and the son sold the business.... and now I get pricing all over the place, for the same equipment and same install.... wastes my time and theirs.)

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My hvac guy is installing a 3.5 ton Goodman unit( gas furnace/ac) that he paid $1500 for.
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[QUOTE=O.S.;1959772]Really your question is kind of odd and it business sense it really doesnt make any sense..

So you say you are a GC ...

Don't you get all your price from your sub before you actually bid your job or are you just guessing at it ... then getting the job and later finding pricing to get the job completed...

Dont tell me you are one of those contractors that go around bidding with out getting all your pricing together before submitting your bid ...[/QUOTE

My guess is that he's a Contractor who beats the ever loving shiot out of his Subs for their pricing to the customers face and claims to be personally eating the overage and isn't collecting a dime, but still adds his mark-up and collects when the bill is submitted.

I don't mind that GC's make money off of me -- That's just the way it goes. What I do mind is having my reputation destroyed in the customers eyes by GC's who 'guess' at the true cost but still reap the rewards.

It's my ass being roasted on Linda's.
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May hvac guy is installing a 3.5 ton Goodman unit( gas furnace/ac) that he paid $1500 for.
What's the deal with all of this 'Broken English'?

Am I the only one who takes the time to proofread his posts before submitting them?
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Really your question is kind of odd and it business sense it really doesnt make any sense..

So you say you are a GC ...

Don't you get all your price from your sub before you actually bid your job or are you just guessing at it ... then getting the job and later finding pricing to get the job completed...

Dont tell me you are one of those contractors that go around bidding with out getting all your pricing together before submitting your bid ...[/QUOTE

My guess is that he's a Contractor who beats the ever loving shiot out of his Subs for their pricing to the customers face and claims to be personally eating the overage and isn't collecting a dime, but still adds his mark-up and collects when the bill is submitted.

I don't mind that GC's make money off of me -- That's just the way it goes. What I do mind is having my reputation destroyed in the customers eyes by GC's who 'guess' at the true cost but still reap the rewards.

It's my ass being roasted on Linda's.
He may be just the GC that you guess.... I don't know him.

But he might be a responsible GC (like any responsible buyer) that wants to evaluate a bid from an informed and resonable position.....

I understand that might not be what you want.
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What's the deal with all of this 'Broken English'?

Am I the only one who takes the time to proofread his posts before submitting them?
Why is "Broken English" capitalized and in quotes.


(In answer to your question, yes. However, I take the time to proofread your posts.)
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What's the deal with all of this 'Broken English'? Am I the only one who takes the time to proofread his posts before submitting them?
Remind me...

Who are you?
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My hvac guy is installing a 3.5 ton Goodman unit( gas furnace/ac) that he paid $1500 for.
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Remind me...

Who are you?
Kam... Gotta tell ya a story...

about the Colorado kid who went off to Boston for his freshman year at the prestigious Harvard College.......

He was lost in Harvard yard, and shyly asked an upper classman...."Excuse me sir, could you tell me where the library is at?"

Whereupon, he was immediately and sarcastically reprimanded with the response..."Son, at Harvard, we do not end a sentence with a preposition."

The Colorado kid thought about it for a minute, and responded.."Please excuse me sir, could you please tell me where the library is at, a$$ hole."

Best Bubbi....
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I'm the guy who sticks with what he knows and doesn't pretend to know a little about everything.
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I'm the guy who sticks with what he knows and doesn't pretend to know a little about everything.
Oh, I was looking for a name. I'm not quite sure what you're talking about here.

You've trolled this thread, answered nothing, added nothing and were smug about it. Is that what you're sticking to?
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What's the deal with all of this 'Broken English'?

Am I the only one who takes the time to proofread his posts before submitting them?
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Why is "Broken English" capitalized and in quotes.


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]I'm the guy who sticks with what he knows and doesn't pretend to know a little about everything[/COLOR].
Then Widder..... I suggest you learn the proper english useage of quotation marks and capitalization,....especially before you pretend to know a little about proofreading, and especially before you critisize others.
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Then Widder..... I suggest you learn the proper english useage of quotation marks and capitalization,....especially before you pretend to know a little about proofreading, and especially before you critisize others.
i rally like too speak good, specially on-the unternet withe al thees important anonymous peepel
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I don't know.

Is it just me?

It seems like we are getting a lot more trollers signing up here lately who come on, trash talk, contribute nothing, or start polls almost daily on obvious or irrelevant topics.

Or maybe it's just me........
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Remind me...Who are you?

OH you are the guy that only need fill out a 1 page registration for a license and drop a C note and magically you are a home improvement contractor.
Oh excuse me I forgot the online registration with the Pennsylvania Attorney General where you "will receive your registration number and a printable temporary registration certificate instantaneously"

What no 16 hour test to check your competency?

Hatboro registration requirements only 4 years of pushing a wheel barrow.

And only 3 positive testimonials at your interweb site out of your hundreds of customers.
There are millions of home improvement (cough) contractors just stand at the entrance of your neighborhood Home Depot and count all that enter.

And you have the stones to question a professional tradesman.

So go back to your facebook or get online and ask some others who they are, then soon you will have 1000 posts.

The only problem you have is your reliance on professional tradesmen, can't complete a job without us.
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Remind me...Who are you? OH you are the guy that only need fill out a 1 page registration for a license and drop a C note and magically you are a home improvement contractor. Oh excuse me I forgot the online registration with the Pennsylvania Attorney General where you "will receive your registration number and a printable temporary registration certificate instantaneously" What no 16 hour test to check your competency? Hatboro registration requirements only 4 years of pushing a wheel barrow. And only 3 positive testimonials at your interweb site out of your hundreds of customers. There are millions of home improvement (cough) contractors just stand at the entrance of your neighborhood Home Depot and count all that enter. And you have the stones to question a professional tradesman. So go back to your facebook or get online and ask some others who they are, then soon you will have 1000 posts. The only problem you have is your reliance on professional tradesmen, can't complete a job without us.
Thanks for the nice laugh. I'm not sure what spurred this rant, and also unsure of your point.
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Remind me...Who are you?

OH you are the guy that only need fill out a 1 page registration for a license and drop a C note and magically you are a home improvement contractor.
Oh excuse me I forgot the online registration with the Pennsylvania Attorney General where you "will receive your registration number and a printable temporary registration certificate instantaneously"

What no 16 hour test to check your competency?

Hatboro registration requirements only 4 years of pushing a wheel barrow.

And only 3 positive testimonials at your interweb site out of your hundreds of customers.
There are millions of home improvement (cough) contractors just stand at the entrance of your neighborhood Home Depot and count all that enter.

And you have the stones to question a professional tradesman.

So go back to your facebook or get online and ask some others who they are, then soon you will have 1000 posts.

The only problem you have is your reliance on professional tradesmen, can't complete a job without us.
Is this the way you want to start up here?
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Thanks for the nice laugh. I'm not sure what spurred this rant, and also unsure of your point.
I too was trying to figure out who he was directing his comments to. Decided it wasn't me cuz I didn't fit the profile!
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I too was trying to figure out who he was directing his comments to. Decided it wasn't me cuz I didn't fit the profile!
Definitely directed at me, not sure why though
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The real answer to your question Dealer Cost For HVAC Unit is
in my case Miami fl direct from Goodman 1.5 ton 13 seer $870.00 2 ton 13 seer $1070.00
labor for replacement to existing duct lines electrical about $1000.00 + permits.

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