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BiggersJunior 01-19-2014 10:27 PM

Dealer cost for HVAC Units
 
I have been curious for a while about the actual cost for HVAC units. I am a builder. I have received 3 bids for a home and the range of the bids is unreal (varies up to 90% for the same units/items).

I am looking for the actual (ballpark) itemized cost for a Heil and/or Goodman 13 Seer 1.5 ton AND 2 ton units only? How many hours would it take to change them out? The HVAC contractor will use the existing duct work. Thanks for your help.

rex 01-19-2014 10:30 PM

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Good luck.

CrpntrFrk 01-19-2014 10:33 PM

I am not sure why but I am sure you could answer your own question as to why. Are you the most expensive GC in the area or the cheapest? Why? Now apply that answer to your question.

I understand your trying to not get ripped off and you want solid workmanship but if you have any questions about someones bid you should just ask them.

Meant no disrespect but the base of most all contractors and contracting is pretty much the same.

BiggersJunior 01-19-2014 11:05 PM

Without getting into a debate or a lot of talk...I'm simply asking what the true costs of the units are. That's it. I understand some HVAC contractors will charge more than others based on numerous variables, but that's not the question. Hopefully one of you guys can give a real answer.

kambrooks 01-19-2014 11:42 PM

$1000-$4000

TXACguy 01-19-2014 11:54 PM

Bids for A/C
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggersJunior (Post 1936639)
I have been curious for a while about the actual cost for HVAC units. I am a builder. I have received 3 bids for a home and the range of the bids is unreal (varies up to 90% for the same units/items).

I am looking for the actual (ballpark) itemized cost for a Heil and/or Goodman 13 Seer 1.5 ton AND 2 ton units only? How many hours would it take to change them out? The HVAC contractor will use the existing duct work. Thanks for your help.

I just know you don't show your ACTUAL cost to your customers. :laughing:

However, some contractors have high overheads and charge 20-60% on margin. Then 20-40% on markup for contract installers, if they have them. With Obamacare look for it to go up soon, as we have to pay a ton more for insurances.

In Texas, an inside and outside 13 SEER changeout would run around $2800-3600, depending upon location and permits, inspections and upgrades (drain alarms, horizontal or upflow, drain pans, proper code upgrades). That is just us - a small outfit! You might find it cheaper form an illegal installer.

On your bids, ask them what they are doing... itemized... If they don't or won't , find someone else.

HVAC1000 01-20-2014 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggersJunior
I have been curious for a while about the actual cost for HVAC units. I am a builder. I have received 3 bids for a home and the range of the bids is unreal (varies up to 90% for the same units/items). I am looking for the actual (ballpark) itemized cost for a Heil and/or Goodman 13 Seer 1.5 ton AND 2 ton units only? How many hours would it take to change them out? The HVAC contractor will use the existing duct work. Thanks for your help.

. It depends. We don't even know what kind of equipment you are asking about. Is is a heat pump? Gas? Packaged? Split system? Or just replacing an A/C-no heat modification.

TimelessQuality 01-20-2014 11:12 PM

Tree-fiddy?

flashheatingand 01-20-2014 11:45 PM

Too many variables. Some jobs, one can get in & out. Others,not so much. On~line furnace dealers are pretty close to ours.

I'm not one to get crazy with fancy gear. However, being south of the Mason Dixon. Why not step it up a scoash?

Gene S. 01-22-2014 12:18 PM

Also consider most HVAC contractors I know have been totally screwed over by GC at least once so the price goes up with the PIA factor. Here the 13seer 2 ton condenser, coil, line set, disconnect, air handler, and misc needed parts will hit me about $2500. Now add in labor, overhead, licenses, insurance, profit, (and that PIA factor) and the price can go up pretty fast.

ranteso 01-22-2014 04:28 PM

you must have just got into the business and the trades you are hiring are treating you like a homeowner.

Once you build trade relationships and trust the information you seek will be freely provided by same.

But why would you need to know? the only reason that comes to mind is to beat them up on their price, something that cheap builders and homeowners do.

beenthere 01-25-2014 07:00 AM

One contractor may pay more or less then another. based on his yearly volume. So their is no single wholesale price for any HVAC equipment.

About 13 years ago. The company at worked at then, bought about 100 units a year from the one distributor. We did a bid on a large apartment complex change out. 260 units/systems(furnce, coil, condenser) at one shot. Because all the equipment was coming at one time, the manufacturer didn't have to do production line retools. We got it at 52% of what we normally paid. Plus, for the remainer of the year, all the equipment we got from the distributor, was discounted an additional 5% off what we normally paid.

A contractor that only does 30 grand a year in equipment at a distributor pays more for the same equipment then a contractor that does 150 grand a year.

As a one man show, I don't do a large volume with anyone distributor, so I pay more then what a lot of my competition does, for the same equipment.

accessheating 01-29-2014 05:41 PM

What a tough question!
 
The time for changing out can vary greatly between one company and another. It's no surprise that you are getting variances with that much of a spread.
Better companies and better installs=higher pricing.

The cost for equipment, especially Heil (which is such a low-qaulity brand for a custom home remodel, just sayin) can be as low as $850 and up towards $2500.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggersJunior (Post 1936639)
I have been curious for a while about the actual cost for HVAC units. I am a builder. I have received 3 bids for a home and the range of the bids is unreal (varies up to 90% for the same units/items).

I am looking for the actual (ballpark) itemized cost for a Heil and/or Goodman 13 Seer 1.5 ton AND 2 ton units only? How many hours would it take to change them out? The HVAC contractor will use the existing duct work. Thanks for your help.


flashheatingand 01-29-2014 07:41 PM

"....Better companies, better installs = higher pricing...." If it were only that plain and simple.

accessheating 01-29-2014 08:18 PM

Yeah, if only. Hopefully you find what you are looking for and good luck getting a contractor you trust and don't have to worry about keeping his pricing low and competitive.

MTN REMODEL LLC 01-29-2014 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by flashheatingand (Post 1944281)
"....Better companies, better installs = higher pricing...." If it were only that plain and simple.

You mean higher price does not mean higher quality....:eek:

Next you're going to tell me there's no Easter Bunny or Fairy God Mother.....

GD iconoclast:censored:

Best

Peter

accessheating 01-29-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MTN REMODEL LLC
You mean higher price does not mean higher quality....:eek: Next you're going to tell me there's no Easter Bunny or Fairy God Mother..... GD iconoclast:censored: Best Peter

Lol!

svronthmve 01-29-2014 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TXACguy (Post 1936712)

On your bids, ask them what they are doing... itemized... If they don't or won't , find someone else.

I'll gladly itemize WHAT I'm doing, but I DON'T / WON'T itemize pricing. Ever.

flashheatingand 01-30-2014 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTN REMODEL LLC (Post 1944509)
You mean higher price does not mean higher quality....:eek:

Next you're going to tell me there's no Easter Bunny or Fairy God Mother.....

GD iconoclast:censored:

Best

Peter

Two outfits replace an ignitor, or blower motor. One charges 25 cents and the other 50 cents. The 50 cent company does a better job of the diagnosis and installation of the part?

Sorry, if you really believe more money means better quality, you have been duped. Some companies respect the dollar more than others. Some of us try to keep expenses down for the customer, and don't hide behind the "quality cost" mask.

beecool 02-02-2014 02:40 PM

Trade Treading
 
Should you expect to get the actual cost of a new truck at the dealer?
What is the actual cost for you to build me a 2000 sq' house?

Trade Treading Bad Question


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