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Old 06-14-2012, 07:57 PM   #1
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I have 3 geo thermal 200' wells about 20' from a sand filter system gravel bed. The geo system is a closed loop in 3 grouted wells and DEP here in PA is telling me I cant have them near the gravel bed for the sand filter septic system. They are calling my geo wells "mine subsidence or bore holes" and want 100' from the gravel bed. I understand the concern for drinking water wells but the job is on street water. They dont seem to understand the closed loop system and are just throwing rules at me that dont apply. Anyone have a clue how to explain this or know of any codes that might make it clearer? I cant move the gravel bed because of the lot size and the wells were just drilled 2 days ago, tons of casing and alot of money.

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Wasn't this all planned and permitted before hand?

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Most things were part of the plan/permit but the wells were not called out on any drawings. The well driller knew the mound was there and did it anyway.
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So no. Before spending that kind of money it would have been nice to find out from the BI and other agencies what was and was not permitted to do in those areas.

Closed systems fail, I'm sure this is what they are worried about. What kind of antifreeze are you using in the loop?
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It's not up to the well driller to make sure you have your ducks in a row, though a good pro would probably have asked. I'm quite familiar with that sort of constriction when you need a water well close to a septic (basically, yer gonna lose), but haven't encountered your particular situation.

My condolences. I'll be interested in hearing how it plays out.
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Not sure, some kind of ethanol. Their problem is flow of water etc that is caused by the drilling. The drilling is done, the sooner we grout it the sooner it becomes sealed. Knowing ahead of time would have been ideal, but I am here now with a problem.. any ideas?
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The only way to solve this is to talk to the DEP. Ask what options you have or what compromises can be made. Other than that, they are god.
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You need a Mechanical Engineer and/or a Geo Tech guy to help straighten this mess out...j

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Flip a quarter. Probably cot you as much to go to court to get the DEP over ruled as to drill new wells.

Their whizzed at you for not checking with them first.
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they are officialy called the authority having jurisdiction. That said get a good ixba certified tec involved as stated erlier.

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