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Old 04-12-2019, 07:03 PM   #21
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Started doing circles and stretches. Feels even more sore, which is fine as long as I know I'm not making it worse. Its unbelievable how much it can hurt sleeping

Try to stay off of it but ......
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It's going to hurt at first... the longer you can hold the stretches (build up from it, starting at 12 seconds with a goal of 20) and breath into it, the more you're going to find it releases over time...
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Old 04-12-2019, 07:10 PM   #22
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I did after I tore my chest a free years ago. NY Giants DR so he advertised. He talked more about his own ski injury's now being over 40.

Found more information searching myself.

As you may already know I find when you see a doctor it's very important what you say to them because you can lead them. They're real quick to send you for batteries of tests you may not need.
I have to say it now...you sound like another skeptical curmudgeon. Dissing the docs that are making small talk and trying to make you comfortable, etc.. (or accept your broken-down new reality.)

For your next visit, tell them you want it straight, no b.s. I once said that to a doc (something like "I want the bottom line and I need to get back to x"...), and he paused for a moment, shifted gears, and then got right down to it. Best visit I ever had.

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I developed shoulder pain in both in '93. Waited 13 years to have it checked. Impingement in both. Tried anti-imflammatories. Worked for a while.

Tried PT. Really didn't do anything. Got some cortisone shots periodically. Finally couldn't move the right one in 2013 and felt surgery was the only answer, finally.

DR didn't ever push for it. Ended up having a partial tear (big enough to repair), a full width tear (reattached to the humerus with three screws), and a whole bunch of other soft tissue that needed to be repaired. Then they ground away the impingement. Heard it was a lot of work they did. And I believe that if I had had the surgery on the impingement sooner there wouldn't have been so much damage.

But I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV.

Left shoulder feels real bad lately. I take a bunch of natural AI stuff like Tumeric, MSM, Glucosimine and Chondroitin, and recently added CBD oil . They can help, but I am not diligent enough to keep it up every day. And I feel that surgery is the best way to fix this issue.

I was out of work for 6 months with the right one, and it sucks bad because I don't carry WC, so no disability. No income. Man, I have an awesome wife. But I know that in 4-6 months I can go back to work, and within a year it should be pain free, based on my past experience.

I used flossing on my elbows a few years ago when I developed tennis elbow. Worked great. Haven't tried it for my shoulder or knees yet.

Which is my newest problem. Both knees are arthritic, but the right one got real bad one day in December doing a baseboard job. Up and down. A lot.

Xray showed the arthritis, but that isn't where this new pain is. MRI showed a meniscus tear, but THAT isn't where this pain is. And its swollen with so much fluid that someone thought I had a brace on it the other night, and I had jeans on.

Had fluid drained and a cortisone shot a few weeks ago. That lasted three days. Swelled back up then as well.

Going for PT for it. Thought it was helping but this week has been exceptionally bad. And can't work very much with it like this. So a revisit to the DR is in order. I'm overthinking the long game with this, considering a replacement, but don't know if its that bad yet.
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get a gym membership and lift some weights.
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Thanks for sharing this Tashler. So pain free in a year....yikes better than never ending though. Do you have limited motion?


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I have to say it now...you sound like another skeptical curmudgeon. Dissing the docs that are making small talk and trying to make you comfortable, etc.. (or accept your broken-down new reality.)

For your next visit, tell them you want it straight, no b.s. I once said that to a doc (something like "I want the bottom line and I need to get back to x"...), and he paused for a moment, shifted gears, and then got right down to it. Best visit I ever had.
I'm all about telling it like it is. I don't care what you brutal honesty is best.

I wouldn't have cared had the doctor said I know firsthand from my experience blah blah blah and like you my concerns where whatever...... The guy was just like yeah man we're getting older you have to live with it.
What the f***. there's some truth to that but I want to know what I'm up against, I'll make my own decisions.
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Had a doc tell me I was getting old as an explanation. I was in my 30s at the time.
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Mine was torn, so that takes longer to heal and rehab. After 6 months I went back to work, but no real heavy lifting as the strength wasn't back yet.

I would occasionally get movement or a pop in my shoulder and would hurt like hell, but I think it was scar tissue, and it ended a short time later.

My range of motion? I don't think it's any worse than it was before, never was great. But the physical therapists were really good in stretching it. But I also insisted that they not back off in pain. Workout type pain, not injury pain.

I did everything they told me to and then some a bit. Didn't want to overdue it but needed to get back to being able to use my body for work.

I don't care for surgery, although I've had enough of them. Took me 20 years to go that route with the right shoulder. While I'm glad I did, I don't think I had much choice considering the damage.

But my experience with that one has me thinking about the other one. Not the same or same amount of damage, but I'll see light at the end of the tunnel.

If you have an impingement they same that PT can help. It didn't for me. I've seen a bunch of stuff on YouTube saying they can help it. I'm thinking about trying some. But my bottom line is always- The cause doesn't go away. And after all this time, I think that is what I feel most comfortable with.
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I had all of those symptoms so I bit the bullet and went to the doctor and he sent me for an MRI that showed I had a torn rotator cuff and a detached bicep tendon. It took me 9 months to get back to work.
Exactly why I tolerate my pain. I have a hurt right shoulder. Repetitive motion injury from sanding (ya, I know, blah blah blah). Probably hurts like your does Tom. Usually worst at night or in the morning as I sleep on my right side with my arm up under the pillow. This usually puts my shoulder in a position that isn't comfortable any more.

Whenever I shower I make sure to get lots of hot water on it and do a back and forth motion with my arm, seems to help.

But if I went to the docs for this the inevitable you need to not use this arm for a month or so might be ordered, and it's something I just can't do.

So I deal with it for now.

madrina had a thread out about treatment for this type of stuff

https://www.contractortalk.com/f22/p...o-more-416161/
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Leo,

I totally get the dealing with the pain deal. I did it for years. My wife is my saving grace, both with her income and her tolerance. But knowing that the surgery would keep me out of work for 6 months made me feel guilty as hell. That's mainly why I put it off for so long.

But I could only take so much. And, admittedly, my wife's income is greater than mine and is somewhat of a crutch. So I needed to do what any normal, not self employed person would do.

And hopefully that/these decisions keep me healthy for the rest of my life as opposed to forever dealing with the pain and getting chronically and progressively worse into my old age.

Should my lovely bride decide to let me live that long.
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Tip a PT told me; for icing, fill bag 3 parts water, 1 part rubbing alcohol. Freezer time. Gets very cold, but does not freeze, so you can manipulate around as needed.
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Yep, you warm the area, do your exercises and then cool it back down. When I injure my shoulder by falling on my elbow that's what he PT people did with me.
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Tip a PT told me; for icing, fill bag 3 parts water, 1 part rubbing alcohol.
Mentioned this to my wife, and she was intrigued. Then she suggested using whiskey instead. Double duty!
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I used to buy a 10 lb bag of ice cubes on the way in every morning, then stuff some in a big plastic bag and stuff it in my shirt to cover my shoulder and upper arm.
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You need an MRI I tore both rotator cuffs close to 14 yrs ago. Back to back surgeries. It was hell, but you need to visit an Orthopedic Surgeon.

There were a lot of people doing physical therapy for shoulders without needing surgery.

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My father lost his shoulder but got it back.. Was forman on commerial high rise job way back in the 80s. Fork lift went thru a wall knocking over a huge steel tool or paint cabinet landing on him crushing his shoulder and one muscle was crushed beyond repair. The muscle was removed. He could not lift his arm over his head. After months of therapy and he was able to build the other muscles around it to some how.


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So Tim... been a few days... getting any better?
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I don't know about Tim but I'm working the creak's out...... it hurts when I stop moving
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I don't know about Tim but I'm working the creak's out...... it hurts when I stop moving
Oops.... i next to the o, older fingers, typing too fast, you know how it goes...
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I had real bad shoulder pain about 20 years ago from an accident.
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