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Old 12-07-2019, 07:43 PM   #1
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When Will HDMI Be Obsolete?


I want to run in-wall HDMI from a media center area to a ceiling mounted projector. Normally I'd run conduit, but nearly impossible here. When will the latest spec HDMI be obsolete? Should I run something else? Run is 25'
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Re: When Will HDMI Be Obsolete?


You know what, maybe I can do conduit in two sections and make it cross by an access hatch that will already have to be there for a water shut off.

Thinking about this, I'm sure the answer to my original question is "long before the drywall comes down next"

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Run a 1/2" corline beside your HDMI, then worse case you can run fiber through.

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Run a 1/2" corline beside your HDMI, then worse case you can run fiber through.

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Trouble is it will have two 90s, two 45s, and some offsets. Not my wheelhouse, is that pullable?

Or with the break in the middle, half of the above.
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While you’re at it, stick a cat 6 or 6a in there as well to future proof. You can get baluns to carry pretty much any type of signal over it.


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Trouble is it will have two 90s, two 45s, and some offsets. Not my wheelhouse, is that pullable?



Or with the break in the middle, half of the above.
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The one we are working on is CAT 6. They only stream.

This doesn't replace HDMI, but it is a change from what we usually do.
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2 category wires can be made to carry HDMI if a wire fails.

I second the recommendation to run "smurf tube"/ conduit but I'd up the size if it's to a projector to at least 3/4"--Preferably bigger.

Cat6 is cheap insurance. I'd run 2 of them, plus a high quality HDMI and be VERY careful you don't damage with tension or kinks.
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2 category wires can be made to carry HDMI if a wire fails.

I second the recommendation to run "smurf tube"/ conduit but I'd up the size if it's to a projector to at least 3/4"--Preferably bigger.

Cat6 is cheap insurance. I'd run 2 of them, plus a high quality HDMI and be VERY careful you don't damage with tension or kinks.


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When we do video distribution I run 3 runs of cat6, one for HDMI over IP, the other for network and the third for control if not over network. This will reliably get my 4:2:0 chroma at 60hz at 4K.

Cat6/5e baluns are unreliable, very hit and miss, and your wire runs have to be super clean; taking out a few twists can make the difference between 720p and 1080p. No one manufacturer makes any that I really love, I still use lots, but I try and avoid them in favour of HDMI over IP.

The real trouble comes around when someone wants 18GPS 4:4:4 chroma at 60hz. So far the only reliable way I've done it over a long distance is fiber...and it isn't cheap. If you are under 50' you can use an HDMI cable. Beyond that you are running fiber.
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The 25' HDMI should be good for my adaption of new tech for 10 years. After that fiber will be cheap, or there will be something else, or it'll be wireless. I think I can squeeze even 1" carlon tubing in too.
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The 25' HDMI should be good for my adaption of new tech for 10 years. After that fiber will be cheap, or there will be something else, or it'll be wireless. I think I can squeeze even 1" carlon tubing in too.
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"When Will HDMI Be Obsolete?"

October 24th, 2026 at 9:35 PM Pacific Daylight time.


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October 24th, 2026 at 9:35 PM Pacific Daylight time.


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October 24th, 2026 at 9:35 PM Pacific Daylight time.


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See, that's why I came here. I was off by almost a week.
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Re: When Will HDMI Be Obsolete?


Depends on when the client or you decides to get new stuff. I had a Win98 computer until I couldn't buy a printer for it to replace the one that died. It was probably 10 years past the date that Win98 went out of acceptance.

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