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Old 05-31-2015, 02:39 PM   #21
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On a thread the other week you said something about having to strip before building coats. That's not the case. I'm not taking about building them to a gloss. That's a different thing. building with a oil to a gloss is not recommended because it builds a film and does not penetrate. The film is prone to flaking because it's not penetrated into the material it's just a film of oil on the surface. That's one reason they say wait 9months before adding another top up coat.
Get it right Man,,ghesssssssssss

I said twp never has to be stripped. TWP is not just an " oil " it is an out door finish. As I said before twp has the proprieties that allow it to melt into itself. It is Never a " film " and I have never had it flake, peal or lift even with a build to a gloss you can see your hand in.

There is no need to wait for anything to put twp 100 series on but good weather. That waiting period has be debunked at least 20 years ago.

Do what Ya want. I am just saying what I have been doing for the last 18 years or so.

The man who says it can not be done needs to get out of the way of the man doing it.

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You are using the wrong tip if they are tearing up softwoods. Mine will cut through a 5/4 PT board if I old it close enough. Use the correct angle tip and keep it 6"+ from the boards and you won't see a single mark on one board.

My pressure washer is a Troy as well. Had it about 6 years and has been used 2x a week at least. Does everything from cleaning gutters, running foam guns, cleaning truck, to cleaning concrete and decks. Only just the other day did it have its first issue. The runber fuel pump bubble got a split in it. Makes it a little harder to start now.

Gonna run this into the ground and get a electric kranzle. Won't have the hassle of fuel then.
Trust me, I know how to use a pressure washer and I use the correct tip, but I will still not use it to clean the deck. I let the oxalic acid do that and then I rinse with the pressure washer.

Most old decks around here are redwood, a very soft wood. It doesn't take much pressure to clean out those valleys of softer wood, leaving a surface that is not nearly as smooth as a baby's butt.
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Get it right Man,,ghesssssssssss



I said twp never has to be stripped. TWP is not just an " oil " it is an out door finish. As I said before twp has the proprieties that allow it to melt into itself. It is Never a " film " and I have never had it flake, peal or lift even with a build to a gloss you can see your hand in.



There is no need to wait for anything to put twp 100 series on but good weather. That waiting period has be debunked at least 20 years ago.



Do what Ya want. I am just saying what I have been doing for the last 18 years or so.



The man who says it can not be done needs to get out of the way of the man doing it.



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No it was me who said TWP does not have to be stripped. It was the same thread what Rob was on a few days ago. I corrected you and said it does not.

You may find your way works but I have tried your way and it didn't work for me numerous times but that will teach me for not following their directions.

I even showed you proof that new wood would not absorb the oil. The oil wood just beed on the surface. Because of the moister and the mill glaze which you say does not exist yet!

It took my deck over 4months before it would absorb any oil and this has been consistent for most decks I stained unless it was on back side of a building in the shade then it took Much longer. You also need UV to break down the material some which helps it absorb the oil. You certainly can put it on earlier but it does not penetrate it just builds a film that looks like it has penetrated but won't last as long.

I have no idea why you think TWP would lie about how to apply their product either!
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You can destroy anything with a pressure washer if you aren't careful, I've seen homeowners etch their friggin concrete using the zero degree nozzle. I've washed cedar fences, treated fences, treated to ipe decks and to date never an issue. I suppose its just another regional thing but I can't think of a single home I've worked on that had a deck other than treated except the one ipe deck, even composite isn't very popular.
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Trust me, I know how to use a pressure washer and I use the correct tip, but I will still not use it to clean the deck. I let the oxalic acid do that and then I rinse with the pressure washer.



Most old decks around here are redwood, a very soft wood. It doesn't take much pressure to clean out those valleys of softer wood, leaving a surface that is not nearly as smooth as a baby's butt.

Well clearly not because if its damaging the material it's being done wrong. You could spray the deck with less pressure than rain drops hitting it with a pressure washer. It's all about the tip size and the distance you hold it from the material.
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Well clearly not because if its damaging the material it's being done wrong. You could spray the deck with less pressure than rain drops hitting it with a pressure washer. It's all about the tip size and the distance you hold it from the material.
Now where did I say I damaged the wood. I reiterate, I know how to use a pressure washer. I assume that you don't use soap when you shower to clean yourself.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that I've probably cleaned more decks then you have even seen, or something like that.
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Now where did I say I damaged the wood. I reiterate, I know how to use a pressure washer. I assume that you don't use soap when you shower to clean yourself.



I am going to go out on a limb and say that I've probably cleaned more decks then you have even seen, or something like that.

You said that it don't leave the material as smooth as a baby's butt. I'm guessing that means you damaged/roughed up the material. That can only be blamed on one thing. Inexperience with the pressure washer. As I said it can be strong enough to cut wood in half or weak enough to put less wear than rain drops on a decks. Do you tell people not to clean their decks with a hose too because it may be too powerful.

Using the comment you have done more than me means nothing. There's guys in this area who build 100x more decks than me yet they ain't got a clue and look like ****. It means nothing.

There are people like me and others who have the skill to use pressures. Kind of reminds me of the people on the detailing forums who won't use more than 60psi to clean their vehicle because it can damage their paint. My paints still on my truck at 3000psi. These people just ain't got the experience using them to know.
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You said that it don't leave the material as smooth as a baby's butt. I'm guessing that means you damaged/roughed up the material. That can only be blamed on one thing. Inexperience with the pressure washer. As I said it can be strong enough to cut wood in half or weak enough to put less wear than rain drops on a decks. Do you tell people not to clean their decks with a hose too because it may be too powerful.

Using the comment you have done more than me means nothing. There's guys in this area who build 100x more decks than me yet they ain't got a clue and look like ****. It means nothing.

There are people like me and others who have the skill to use pressures. Kind of reminds me of the people on the detailing forums who won't use more than 60psi to clean their vehicle because it can damage their paint. My paints still on my truck at 3000psi. These people just ain't got the experience using them to know.
I know I am a hack, but that comes with experience.

The reason I am aware of what a pressure washer can do is that I had to learn my lessons. Luckily, I learned from them. I've also seen plenty of decks ruined by others using a pressure washer incorrectly. I do tell clients to be very careful using a pressure washer.

From my experience, I will let cleaners do the cleaning, not the pressure washer.

By the way, have you ever cleaned a redwood deck using a pressure washer only.
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I know I am a hack, but that comes with experience.



The reason I am aware of what a pressure washer can do is that I had to learn my lessons. Luckily, I learned from them. I've also seen plenty of decks ruined by others using a pressure washer incorrectly. I do tell clients to be very careful using a pressure washer.



From my experience, I will let cleaners do the cleaning, not the pressure washer.



By the way, have you ever cleaned a redwood deck using a pressure washer only.

I have only cleaned a couple of redwood decks but cleaned a bunch of western red cedar which is even softer than the redwood was. But to be honest there's not a lot in it between PT SYP, CRW and WRC they are all easily damaged by a pressure washer if you don't know what your doing.

Also I never said you were a hack.

Just said you don't have the experience I do as i have no problem using the pressure washer on softer woods with causing zero damage or issues.
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Okay, my point is, you cannot properly clean a softwood deck with a pressure washer only, especially a older deck. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

Do you ever use soap to clean your hands? Or since you have the pressure washer do you just use that..
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Barri you can call a lot of people inexperienced Mark ain't one of them. Unbelievable and laughable
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Okay, my point is, you cannot properly clean a softwood deck with a pressure washer only, especially a older deck. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.



Do you ever use soap to clean your hands? Or since you have the pressure washer do you just use that..

I use deck restore deck cleaner and brightener. I used to use that with just a hose and brush clean the deck with just a hard bristle brush then hose off. It used to work ok but not great. Then I bought a pressure washer and they come out much cleaner and took the oil much better too. This was under the advice of TWP.

I still use the cleaners and hard bristle brush and use the pressure washer as the final step.
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Barri you can call a lot of people inexperienced Mark ain't one of them. Unbelievable and laughable

Inexperienced with cleaning a deck with a pressure washer it seems. How do you explain that I and many others on here can manage it without issue but a few cant. That tells me that the ones who can know what they are doing from experience.
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Inexperienced with cleaning a deck with a pressure washer it seems. How do you explain that I and many others on here can manage it without issue but a few cant. That tells me that the ones who can know what they are doing from experience.
Barri, you really need to go back to the beginning and read what I have said. You are embarrassing yourself with some of your inaccuracies.

I'll go back and see where you first mention that you use a chemical to actually clean the deck, as opposed to just using a pressure washer.

I use a pressure washer on all decks, but to rinse, not to clean. Just as you do apparently.
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Okay, I went back through the posts and numerous times I said that I use the PW to rinse the deck, not to clean it. I don't destroy decks with a PW, that's just not me.

Now you on the other hand did not mention using anything other the PW to clean decks until your last post. You just use it to rinse the deck, just as I have been saying all this time.

Please learn how to read before you criticize others.
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No I use the pressure washer to clean. The rinsing can be done with a hose. When I say clean I mean clean. Not rinsing. The only reason I use the restore and brighter is to remove old coatings and remove mill glaze. The pressure washer still does the bulk of the clean.
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Barri, you really need to go back to the beginning and read what I have said. You are embarrassing yourself with some of your inaccuracies.



I'll go back and see where you first mention that you use a chemical to actually clean the deck, as opposed to just using a pressure washer.



I use a pressure washer on all decks, but to rinse, not to clean. Just as you do apparently.

How am I embarrassing my self? I'm curious. Your the one doing that. How is following TWP's instructions a bad thing?

Don't try and twist what I'm saying because your wrong. If you don't have the experience to use a pressure washer to clean not rinse a deck that's your problem. There's many more of us on this forum who has no issue doing it. Like I say what's that tell you. That tells me you ain't got a clue what your doing with a pressure washer if you can't use one without damaging the material. If that's the case then I understand why you won't use one.
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I still use the cleaners and hard bristle brush and use the pressure washer as the final step.
My final step is to rinse. Is there something I'm not seeing here?

It's been mildly fun, but I think you are a lost cause.
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How am I embarrassing my self? I'm curious. Your the one doing that. How is following TWP's instructions a bad thing?

Don't try and twist what I'm saying because your wrong. If you don't have the experience to use a pressure washer to clean not rinse a deck that's your problem. There's many more of us on this forum who has no issue doing it. Like I say what's that tell you. That tells me you ain't got a clue what your doing with a pressure washer if you can't use one without damaging the material. If that's the case then I understand why you won't use one.
Yes you are embarrassing yourself. It's even worse that you don't see it. As usual. Do you still claim that curb weight includes people?

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