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Old 07-07-2020, 08:03 PM   #1
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Stupid Human Question.


I have a rise of 21 inches, so 3 7 inch steps. It is across around 15 feet wide. So I need to make around 10 or so stair jacks.

Is it easier to just make 2 boxes and stack them and lock them in place or make 10 or 11 short stair jacks.

I'll be setting the ends on pads and locking it all together with blocking. Or I may set one long PT on the flat on pads and set on that. Not sure yet.

What do you do?

Like I said, stupid human question.

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Old 07-07-2020, 08:39 PM   #2
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Re: Stupid Human Question.


Never heard them called stair jacks before--had to look that up.

I'd go with boxes. And I'm on the internet, so I must be right.

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Old 07-07-2020, 08:51 PM   #3
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I would ladder box two steps but cut stringer for three.

Three total? deck being the third?
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Yep, deck is the third.

I had stop and think if I called them stair jacks. Yep, that's what we call them.

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Boxes for sure.
Trying to keep that many stringers in line is a biotch.

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I say make it with stringers, and you'll remember to use boxes next time.
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I always cut stringers when I can.


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I'm trying to understand why?
Boxes seem simpler, as in quicker, and easier to not screw it up?

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Boxes seem simpler, as in quicker, and easier to not screw it up?



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I don't see it that way. I can cut stringers very fast without issue.


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Not completely sure but I believe stringers take less material as well. When you consider all the ladder blocking. I think it's less work.


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I cut all those stringers on a couple long boards. If I remember correctly I used 20 footers, and didn't cut the small stringers until I had the whole 20' cut.


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I would ladder box two steps but cut stringer for three.

Three total? deck being the third?

I agree. With two treads or less boxes are better. Above that they become more work.

A lot of the time there is enough scrap from the rest of the framing for the blocking. So itís using waste vs making more.
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Real stringer= 5 cuts
Box "stringer" = 2 cuts

If it's PT, field treat all the cut ends by standing it in a pan.


Real stringers take a lot more to field treat the cuts.
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I usually just put a spray bottle sprayer on a bottle of liquid brown death and spray it.

Well, now I have a consensus of two ways to do it.

Now I will spend the entire night over thinking it and then still not know how I want to do it in the morning.

I may do stingers just because I am working alone and building and moving 15 foot boxes will get heavy.

Cutting them all from long material does seem pretty quick.

Though, I would need to drop downriggers and box in the bottom of the deck.

Well, now time for overthinking to commence.

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Real stringer= 5 cuts
Box "stringer" = 2 cuts

If it's PT, field treat all the cut ends by standing it in a pan.


Real stringers take a lot more to field treat the cuts.

You are not including all the ladders? They all have to be cut.


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How will they be anchored at the bottom?

A few posts?

A beam laying on the ground or in a bed of gravel?

If a few posts, I would box it.

If on a beam or on blocks, I would box it.






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You are not including all the ladders? They all have to be cut.


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No, I was pointing out just cutting and treating those pieces. If it weren't for that, boxing would be much slower and use more material.
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One downside to boxes is it creates an opportunity for unwanted critters to build a home.

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One downside to boxes is it creates an opportunity for unwanted critters to build a home.

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I've made some that were 3 steps, including a landing. A woodchuck decided it was a good place for a home.

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