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Old 09-02-2015, 01:41 PM   #1
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i know, i know this will sound dumb but...
what is the preferred way to attach a side/edge joist to the ledger board
in the past I have used both screws or nails..and installed it butted to or next to the ledger. I have never used any type of simpson tie
what are your thoughts..thanks guys

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Old 09-02-2015, 02:39 PM   #2
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It depends on how you are finishing the deck. If there will be skirting, or fascia going on the outside of the joists then I'd use a hidden joist hanger. It doesn't have an outer flange, the nails go on the inside of the unit.
If that last joist will be exposed, then I'd run it long past the ledger and into the house. Nail from the outside into the ledger, then use an angle tie on the inside corner.

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Old 09-02-2015, 03:25 PM   #4
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i know, i know this will sound dumb but...
what is the preferred way to attach a side/edge joist to the ledger board
in the past I have used both screws or nails..and installed it butted to or next to the ledger. I have never used any type of simpson tie
what are your thoughts..thanks guys

by the way since joining here i have taken and used some of the advice here and it has helped a great deal..especially in the way i estimate
also from seeing that some of u have been doing this(running a company)for quite some time , Im glad to see that it CAN be done and you are doing well...i hope to imitate in your success
One fairly important thing (in my never to be humble opinion) is to become more familiar with the proper use of punctuation in your correspondence. English is a difficult language to write properly and god only knows I fail miserably at it too but come on man, let's at the very least capitalize the first word of a sentence and the personal pronoun "I".
And for god's sake please don't use "u" in place of "you".

This is a not a texting forum.

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Old 09-02-2015, 04:38 PM   #5
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I..was texting quickly from the job site and wanted a pros opinion. I.. am sorry YOU were irked by it

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Andy, what'd you expect from a guy with no vowels in his name?

You know, most phones capitalize AUTOMATICALLY.

And a double tap makes a period.
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A concealed flange hanger works great for that. LUC28 or 210
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Andy, if you were close by I would shake your hand with both of mine.

The written English language , print or script , is no longer being taught in school to the young folks. It's a real shame.

I recently spent some time writing out in script long hand a letter to one of my nephews recently stationed in Germany after finishing teck school for the Air Force. I did two drafts, telling Him things I learned in the Military and to keep his head down along with some personal things. I was thinking He would keep the letter and maybe drag it out again in future years when I might be gone

He called me in a thanks but said He could not read it. This was the first time I had heard of the schools not teaching this kind of writing but come to find out it's been going on for a while now.

The teachers do not think it is money well spent, and besides no one will be writing anything by hand in the near future. Ha Ha Ha Ha, indeed.

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A concealed flange hanger works great for that. LUC28 or 210

Concealed.. I knew I didn't have the right word.
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One fairly important thing (in my never to be humble opinion) is to become more familiar with the proper use of punctuation in your correspondence. English is a difficult language to write properly and god only knows I fail miserably at it too but come on man, let's at the very least capitalize the first word of a sentence and the personal pronoun "I".
And for god's sake please don't use "u" in place of "you".

This is a not a texting forum.

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Scipio Kite and John

When I posed my question , it was in the attempt to receive an answer pertaining to the question. I did not realize there were those here that were so concerned with the ability to 'write ' English correctly. As I said, I was texting on the fly. My age (47 tomorrow) , or my education had nothing to do with it. And your right, I used to be surprised when I witnessed someone not being able to read script, or unable to converse unless using slang or 'street' but I am not anymore . Its a damn shame, but its not happening suddenly.
When I was in 11th grade our English teacher was actually a professor who chose to stop teaching in college, and teach in lower grades because as she put it "I was appalled at the level of skill that freshman had in college"
I love this site, I am learning something new every day including being more succinct in the future.

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God is done this way God, I m not sure who this is god
If I was a man of faith (which I am) and referring directly to or of the Judeo-Christian god of the Bible then it would be proper for me to use the capitalized "God".
I was not necessarily using in that context so the lower case g would be acceptable. But, being a good Catholic boy and being needled by your pedantic little post I have come to the realization that you were actually correct (after a manner of speaking) and I should have capitalized the name of my god in that post.

I stand corrected (sort of).

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I don't understand why you think I am referring to the way you typed the word god...I was just commenting on your reply to my original post...also cute the way you try to diminish my reply by saying little pedantic post...you are quite the wordsmith
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I'm pretty sure he was referring to Mr killa's post not yours....whoops
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My bad
Jeez I hate that term...ha
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PEDANT:
of or like a pedant.
"many of the essays are long, dense, and too pedantic to hold great appeal"
synonyms: overscrupulous, scrupulous, precise, exact, perfectionist, punctilious, meticulous, fussy, fastidious, finicky;
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I recently spent some time writing out in script long hand a letter to one of my nephews recently stationed in Germany after finishing teck school for the Air Force.
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Jesus , just use a hidden hanger.....
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It's ok to be simple, at least you won't have to waste your time correcting people's spelling on a contractor forum, as the more enlightened must

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