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Old 07-06-2015, 11:36 PM   #1
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Sack Mix Or Concrete Truck?


In general,
How many bags of concrete are you willing to mix, what is your cutoff amount when you call a mobile mix or ready mix to your deck job.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:40 PM   #2
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Re: Sack Mix Or Concrete Truck?


depends on how many guys you have on the clock. If you have a crew of 3 guys and you're mixing by hand, can you keep them busy afterwards?

personally, all my deck jobs were 36" deep footers and less than 700SF, so it was all by hand b/c the trip charge and scheduling would have put me behind.

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It's getting to the point I have to get a truck, because of all the expansive clay out here the municipalities are requiring a trip ticket.

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For some reason, I kinda like mixing concrete. The max I have mixed was 2 pallets (70 bags) of 90lb bags.

For smaller stuff we try to have multiple pours ready so the truck can follow us around with the goods.
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I order concrete for every single one. Even for 3 footings. My time is more expensive then the concrete bill.
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That's why I have the low man do it. I haven't mixed or poured concrete in years. It cost me 150 bucks all I have to do is drop off the mixer. That's if I can pour without needing a trip ticket.
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Why not use biscuts and save the time
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We have trucks with ready mix concrete trucks popping up all over.

They haul 3 years and they will deliver whatever you need from a 1/4-3 yards anytime...

With that said, some concrete companies started to wave short load minimums and will deliver from a yard and up...the only thing for short loads you get them usually around 2-3pm, they still bang you out for delivery, but it beats mixing by hand unless you got a mixer.
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Day labor is cheaper than pump trucks so that usually how it's done.
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Day labor is cheaper than pump trucks so that usually how it's done.
Day Labor;

Where you get them people, around here it's union, union, can't get cheap labor, would be nice to pull up to some corner and get some helpers.

Those guys are usually standing on the corners of roads w/ signs, that say will work for food. But don't want no job where u offer 1

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For us the variable is access. The min delivery charge for crete is 375. Generally we mix bags. Concrete truck tend to mess up lawns and cause extra work.
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Access, access, access....
Usually not too darn good.

We do a lot of quick-set in the holes with low decks and fences.
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2 yds here is the minimum delivery and that's about 100 bags of 60lb crete which is about the max for 2 of my guys to handle in a day
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Day Labor;

Where you get them people,
I use a temp agency but the guys can be hit-or-miss. I wouldn't rely on them too much. They are nice to supplement the regular crew and the guys appreciate that I'm trying to make the bad days better. I had a guy only last half a day this week and the next day the new guy quit after 10 minutes. On the plus side, another guy showed up two hours later and put in a good 5 hours. That's 10 hours of work off my other two guys plates.

For your size operation, I think it would be a logistical nightmare. You'd be better off having 2-3 guys who were on call for rough work.
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Most I build are on a lake, behind the house, down the hill.

I bought a really nice wheel barrow, nice to get a bit of a work out once in a while.
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I taught my new lead the "tarp technique" today. I guess I'll find out tomorrow if I'm totally nuts. They only had to mix about 20 bags.
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20-30 bags depending on schedule. Concrete has gone up here, I used to be able to get a truck onsite for $215, now it's $325. I prefer a truck but sometimes we have to bag it due to scheduling.
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20-30 bags? Screw that! Any more than half a dozen an we get a truck.
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20-30 bags? Screw that! Any more than half a dozen an we get a truck.
No delivery minimums in your area?
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20-30 bags? Screw that! Any more than half a dozen an we get a truck.
7 bags at $4.50 ea = $31.50 + 30 mins of time = maybe $75... so you'd pay $300+ to get a truck? Don't be a fool.

I base my decision on math and the costs of mixing vs buying, I also include what else we could be doing during the 2-3 hours saved by using a truck. Make smart business decisions.

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