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Old 04-07-2008, 07:24 PM   #21
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I think Auntie is going to spend a BOAT LOAD of money.If you charge her T/M.Yowza!That deck will take forever if it is done by someone that don't know what the heck they are doing!On the other hand...Good for you...Mo money...
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:47 PM   #22
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This is true Jumbo, I have done work for Family, two rules>>>>

1st rule---- do it for around twice the going rate

2ed rule----do it for free

There is no inbetween. J.
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This is true Jumbo, I have done work for Family, two rules>>>>

1st rule---- do it for around twice the going rate

2ed rule----do it for free

There is no inbetween. J.
Your right about that. I have a big family in the area and they Always call me. Which is good in some ways - when I charge. Bad in others - as I've done a lot of favors for them in the past. What comes around goes around I guess.

Mac...Yeah I could have asked all kinds of immaterial questions about scribing boards and fascias and skirts if I wanted to, but that wasn't my reason for posting. I never have much time to devote to these discussions, besides lurking every now and then. I really wish I did, cuz it is a treasure trove of info. But if it ever comes to it Mac, I promise I won't bite your head off in the Elec. forum.
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But if it ever comes to it Mac, I promise I won't bite your head off in the Elec. forum.
You'll never need to, I don't talk money on these forums - ever. I come here to share and learn methods and techniques.

I know what I need to make per day, I'll puzzle out how much work I can get done in a day - that gives me my labor price.
Materials - I just contact my local suppliers - they'll have a better idea of my cost would be than guys on this forum who are located anywhere from Toronto to Texas.

(Besides...this forum is open to the WHOLE WORLD and I don't feel like sharing my financial information with the WHOLE WORLD!) And I'm amazed at the guys who do...

I didn't even look at when you joined because 10 times out of 10 (you apparently being the exception), a guy with less than 10 posts who starts a "How much do I charge" thread is either a: a HO or b: a noob hack who wants to take the prices given and disappear. Neither of those is a positive asset to this forum and I try to help them on their merry way...quickly. Pissin' 'em off usually does it.

So, good luck with your project - hopefully you and the aunt can figure something out.

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I go from mild-mannered deck guy to full-blown asshole in 3 seconds flat!


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Don't be modest Mac...It didn't take you nearly that long....lol.





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Don't be modest Mac...It didn't take you nearly that long....lol.





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I kind of like throwing in a "dumbass" question once in a while just to stir it up a bit if I'm bored.....but then I just get pissed off when it turns personal......too sarcasm is so hard to get across in print.

Charge your Aunt $52,756.86......that oughtta cover your T&M.
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I've noticed that as well-there should be a "sarcastic" emoticon......
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:15 AM   #29
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Im gunna get on over to that Ell forum and post a teck question to the Chilla, I have a hot tub deal thats makeing me Crazy!!!!! J.
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Talked out of doing it? Maybe I can have an "experienced" deck builder like yourself drive up here to Fair Oaks and you can do it. Don't worry, I've done my fair share of framing and concrete work in my life, I'll be taking my class b in the next couple of months. Maybe then I'll be as qualified as you. I've never worked for a fencing and decking company, but this deck would be rebuilt in the same manner, aside from the lighting I'm gonna add. I've heard rates being thrown around of $20-30 sq. ft., but that's with materials. She doesn't live far from me and since she is family I do get cookies and beer.
Having read all the posts now and seeing some level of civility returning, I'll offer this advice. First go look at some of MAC's project pictures and get an idea of of who your talking to. I built 12 decks and 4 porches last year and ain't even close to being in his league. Working for family sucks period, these guys are right, option 1 or or option 2 are pretty much it. You have all the tools to complete the project? Who picks up the tab for wasted material?

You can't square foot price a deck like that, double op the material on a square 12 x 16 deck with set of 4 riser steps, you could make a few dollars. You double up up the material on that deck and your working for nothing. Hows your stair building skills? Compound mitering skills?

I don't try to play with things I know little or nothing about, ESPECIALLY for someone care about.

I'm headed for the P&R to see whos pi$$ed off over there
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Im gunna get on over to that Ell forum and post a teck question to the Chilla, I have a hot tub deal thats makeing me Crazy!!!!! J.
LOL. Ask on brother.

I had a question for you as well...about your last album.

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Having read all the posts now and seeing some level of civility returning, I'll offer this advice. First go look at some of MAC's project pictures and get an idea of of who your talking to. I built 12 decks and 4 porches last year and ain't even close to being in his league. Working for family sucks period, these guys are right, option 1 or or option 2 are pretty much it. You have all the tools to complete the project? Who picks up the tab for wasted material?

You can't square foot price a deck like that, double op the material on a square 12 x 16 deck with set of 4 riser steps, you could make a few dollars. You double up up the material on that deck and your working for nothing. Hows your stair building skills? Compound mitering skills?

I don't try to play with things I know little or nothing about, ESPECIALLY for someone care about.

I'm headed for the P&R to see whos pi$$ed off over there
I've checked out Mac Daddy's work. Pretty snazzy I admit.
I've always had an idea, just wanted a few other opinions. And I don't think I'm in over my head. I do know that feeling though. When you realize that you really don't know how to do something. It could be your 1st time your boss sends you out on your own, or your 1st winning bid or whatever. You wanna go stick your head in the sand. I think we've all been there before. But we persevere, and learn from it, and years later laugh about it.

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She's your aunt, do it for cookies and the occasional meal!

I didn't realize decks were something low voltage contractors did...but hey, it's just a deck - how difficult can it be? Those dumb deck contractors would probably just overcharge her anyway, you're doing her a favor!

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ETA: shazamyman, you speak of "around these parts" yet you don't have your location in your profile...care to be any more specific as to which part of the country you're in?

You did not just advise him to have Lowes come out and do an estimate, did you?


dare i ask why not?
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Yo Chilla you cant belive how I fixed that hot tub thing..drove a ground rod conected to the brain. This is a tub in a room with the works outside with a room of its own right out back. I got the idea from my Wife's nephew see how I am??? so funny. he is a Harley riden guy too so I figured it was ok. Anyway it has a 100 amp service pannel all to itself.

I am thinking all 4 of those heating ellements I had replaced were fine!! they just set off an incorect reading due to starving for ground. Funny World
I have a very funny story about me being taken for the John Hiatt gittar player at 10000 waves in Santa Fe.

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dare i ask why not?
so, no location in your profile yet, dude?

Regarding Lowes - they're big box store... based on experience shared here and my own experience with a couple of HD contractors, I don't think a contractor working for a big box store is gonna do justice to that job. It's big, it's custom, it's surrounding a curved pool and hanging off a hillside - it's not a 12x16 ground level pt no brainer.

But I digress...

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so, no location in your profile yet, dude?

Regarding Lowes - they're big box store... based on experience shared here and my own experience with a couple of HD contractors, I don't think a contractor working for a big box store is gonna do justice to that job. It's big, it's custom, it's surrounding a curved pool and hanging off a hillside - it's not a 12x16 ground level pt no brainer.

But I digress...

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well...they still would be able to give him a ball park figure as to what he could charge, that's the only reason why i suggested it..not to have them do it, just cause they give the estimate doesnt mean they gotta do the job, i mean if your gonna waste a contractors time, wouldn't ya rather waste a huge corporations time then an independent dudes time...


Just to get a figure that's all...the only reason i made the suggestion
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I didn't realize decks were something low voltage contractors did...
You have a mess on your hands, especially if it's not your specialty.
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Yeah, after taking a look underneath I want nothing to do with this nightmare deck. The incline, that retaining wall to deal with, all the holes to dig. There's even a hairline crack in one of these pics.

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