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Old 09-02-2018, 02:54 PM   #1
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Positive Placement Nailer With 3.5inch Nail For Joist Hangers


Is there a Nailer that can handle 16d nails for Joist hanger installation beside the palm nailer?

most in the market can do 2.5inch nails, 16d is 3.5"
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:32 PM   #2
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I do it with the Hitachi NR 85 for the side pocket nails.
No there is no PPN for 3Ĺ" nails that I know of.

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I thought it would be cool to mod a dewalt cordless framer with parts from their cordless PPN, but the first is 30* and the other is 21* so i doubt it would work.

Now that they have a 21* cordless framer on the way, it would be cool to Frankenstein one together.


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Long before there were PPGs we were hitting metal with the Hitachi framing gun and we did learn to hit the holes.. even in the dark
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Long before there were PPGs we were hitting metal with the Hitachi framing gun and we did learn to hit the holes.. even in the dark

ain't worth the workers comp claim from the workers after that ricochet nail...

interesting that such a simple tool has not make it to the market it yet...
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ain't worth the workers comp claim from the workers after that ricochet nail...

interesting that such a simple tool has not make it to the market it yet...
I still hit the hanger side pockets with the Hitachi framer, funny I've never been hurt. It's not that hard, have you tried it?
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ain't worth the workers comp claim from the workers after that ricochet nail...

interesting that such a simple tool has not make it to the market it yet...


I remember watching a guy do that in 1996. He did it without incident.

When I tried it in 2014, I took a ricochet to the forehead.

Lose an eye? No thank you.

Donít be ignorant, anybody.. That crap maims people.


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I still hit the hanger side pockets with the Hitachi framer, funny I've never been hurt. It's not that hard, have you tried it?
it is really not a risk I am ready to take...
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I still hit the hanger side pockets with the Hitachi framer, funny I've never been hurt. It's not that hard, have you tried it?


Been doing it this way for 20 years or so. Never once been hurt by it. And yes I've had nails fling and hit me. But I'm pretty damn good at hitting the hole.


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I remember watching a guy do that in 1996. He did it without incident.

When I tried it in 2014, I took a ricochet to the forehead.

Lose an eye? No thank you.

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A hard hat protects the noggin, but I donít throw tools in the air.

ROÕ is not even close to worth the risk. I think itís dangerous and sets a bad example.

I already had a tooth broken out at work. I donít want to be a maimed old fool with missing digits and a broken body for the sake of expedience.

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Will the Hitachi drive a 3 1/2Ē nail? Seems like they only go up to 3 1/4Ē.
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The NR 90 will do a 3 1/2" nail.

I broke a set of glasses with a ricocheted nail. Since then I never don't wear safety glasses. I don't think a ricochet to the skin would be bad enough for me to worry much.
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Worth mentioning most gun nails don't meet code diameter requirements for those joist hangers. Gotta be .148 I think.
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Worth mentioning most gun nails don't meet code diameter requirements for those joist hangers. Gotta be .148 I think.


Ya it seems like they are usually more concerned with the diameter than the length but itís been a while.
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My paslode PP nailer is dangerous enough, not sure I would try hangers with my regular framing gun.

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A hard hat protects the noggin, but I donít throw tools in the air.

ROÕ is not even close to worth the risk. I think itís dangerous and sets a bad example.

I already had a tooth broken out at work. I donít want to be a maimed old fool with missing digits and a broken body for the sake of expedience.

Nobody thinks it will happen to them- until it does.


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Worth mentioning most gun nails don't meet code diameter requirements for those joist hangers. Gotta be .148 I think.


Not necessarily. The Simpson book says 16's are acceptable.


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A hard hat protects the noggin, but I donít throw tools in the air.

ROÕ is not even close to worth the risk. I think itís dangerous and sets a bad example.

I already had a tooth broken out at work. I donít want to be a maimed old fool with missing digits and a broken body for the sake of expedience.

Nobody thinks it will happen to them- until it does.


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A nail gun isn't going to cause you to lose digit. And there's no way in hell a flinging nail will penetrate safety goggles. It just doesn't have the velocity to get it done.


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Not necessarily. The Simpson book says 16's are acceptable.


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