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Old 10-11-2019, 05:43 PM   #261
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I was just applying east coast logic to the thing. It's like believing in self-cleaning house gutter covers. Not out here.



Had I been arguing, I would have mentioned that I think the gutter at the end would collect crud and be headache, too. But I didn't mention that because I'm not arguing.


What do you propose I do different? Nothing because it's all accessible. You asked me the same thing when I did the pool deck same answer, it's all accessible. In fact I went there and removed a few boards because he replaced the slider took all but about 5 minutes.


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What could you have done differently to keep leaves out of the collection gutters?


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Nothing that I am aware of. Maybe a type of netting to collect them, but one would need to rip all decking off to clean it. Nightmare.

Not too many trees around, but they still get small ones entering between decking.

Collection gutter was around 12' from eaves.

The cut from gutter to downspout is too small.

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Most the backyards around here are landscaped with palm trees.


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What do you propose I do different? Nothing because it's all accessible. You asked me the same thing when I did the pool deck same answer, it's all accessible. In fact I went there and removed a few boards because he reelected the slider Tim all but about 5 minutes.


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I don't think you have to do anything, except maybe tell them to blow off debris when dry...if you care to do that. I take you at your word that you don't have a problem. Never doubted it.

But I also don't believe the notion that it works for everyone, i.e. that nothing will get in there of relevance, nor that they'll wash away the debris if/when it gets in there. I deal with people's stuff that probably "wasn't supposed to happen" all the time. I think we all do.
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I don't think you have to do anything, except maybe tell them to blow off debris when dry...if you care to do that. I take you at your word that you don't have a problem. Never doubted it.

But I also don't believe the notion that it works for everyone, i.e. that nothing will get in there of relevance, nor that they'll wash away the debris if/when it gets in there. I deal with people's stuff that probably "wasn't supposed to happen" all the time. I think we all do.


I never spoke for anyone but myself.


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Most the backyards around here are landscaped with palm trees.


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Coconut palms or Eureka palms or maybe some Royal palms We have a lot lot of micros chewing on Betel Nuts from areca palm trees.
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Coconut palms or Eureka palms or maybe some Royal palms We have a lot lot of micros chewing on Betel Nuts from areca palm trees.


Queen palms, king palms, Canary palms, Pygmy Date Palms, Mediterranean Fan Palms, Pindo Palm, Kentia Palms, and the California fan palms.


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Hey Mark am I doing this right?


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Cool. Never seem that stuff go down. Is it custom pitched for the deck size?
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Cool. Never seem that stuff go down. Is it custom pitched for the deck size?


It gets pitched one bay at a time. It works better than EPDM imo because it's slick as snot and harder.


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Cool. Never seem that stuff go down. Is it custom pitched for the deck size?

It has sloped layout lines on each side of each run. We also use a two foot level and run it down the trough as we staple, insuring we maintain some fall.



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So we had a small snafu with the ceiling material but got it worked out. Then my homeowner made a change with the speakers. We got the figured out as well. Here's a shot of the Rainescapes before the butyl tape.

Because of the large flat areas we will be furring up the deck boards with .40 doug Fir pressure treated 1x.


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.40, 1x PT?

whats the .40?
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.40, 1x PT?



whats the .40?


.40 ACQ. The good stuff.


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ACQ is horrible stuff. But it's what they have now.
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ACQ is horrible stuff. But it's what they have now.


Depends on the percentage. The crap you get at the big box is junk.


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you have to go to a REAL Contractor grade lumber yard to get good material and special order stuff.

they also have guys behind the desk that actually know what they are talking about....

most of the time....
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I'm saying it dissolves metal, it's horrible unless you buy all the special fasteners. The old arsenic filled stuff was great
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I'm saying it dissolves metal, it's horrible unless you buy all the special fasteners. The old arsenic filled stuff was great

Yup, we pay attention to fasteners. The old CCA was better but the ACQ doug fir I'm using was special order.



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That's all I'm saying.

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