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Old 04-22-2015, 12:55 PM   #1
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OK guys I've building these things for a lot of years and there never seems to be a standard for this, what we call an "up and over" set of steps. It will be a 3'x4' landing in front of the door with steps on both sides. Hence "up and over".

Do I drop the landing one step down or make it just below the threshold? The PM always says it's my call. I used to go with what made me the most money, which is installing just below the threshold, because it adds a step and I charge per step for step construction.

There is no needed permit as per state rules. (Any steps with a landing 12 s.f. or under doesn't require a permit) The AHJ is the state of California on mobile homes in Cali. The door is an inswing, for code purposes. Here's the area which I'm building on. For the record I drove around the park and I'd say it's about 50/50 on other units. Just curious to what others think.
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:13 PM   #2
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I vote for just below the threshold, think it's less likely to be a stumbler that way..............

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Drop it down a step?
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Probably done a hundred of those.

Preference by owners was flush, no step down.

Don't recall building any that stepped down.
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I vote for under the threshold myself. Besides the landing looks close to being below the trailer if you made the drop. I wouldn't want to drop my keys then kick them under on accident. Lol
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If you were in a snow area, 1 step down.
Since you aren't (and it doesn't even rain), under the threshold.
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As mentioned, under the threshold, unless you are in snow country.
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I would call an engineer. Bit risky asking us lot on here what to do.
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Will that have a railing/handrail Cali? Just curious
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Yep. It will have the proper railing
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Flush.
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I have that situation on the deck at my house, I choose to drop the landing to eliminate one step for more room on the deck. It's a personal preference thing so ask the H/O what they want.
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Only reason to drop is snow country or to eliminate the need for a rail to save cost.
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Being an inswing, I'd go with flush... better when carrying groceries... anther step up seems superfluous a couple feet later after going up the steps...

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Customer preference first, aesthic considerations second, local traditions third.

No snow there, and a higher step won't stop a mudslide or fire, so have at it.

Step down is the most common here, but so are outswing storm doors.
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Making the landing go to the bottom of the threshold puts another 250.00 in my pocket. Guess which route I'm taking? the developer gets more money as well, they mark up on a percentage basis.
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Making the landing go to the bottom of the threshold puts another 250.00 in my pocket. Guess which route I'm taking? the developer gets more money as well, they mark up on a percentage basis.
Well then what the heck are you asking US for?...

Did you want us to convince you to make more money?...

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To be fair, egress code generally prefers less than 1 1/2" lower than the threshold for obvious reasons.

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