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Old 01-30-2016, 11:04 AM   #1
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I'm going to build myself and ground level deck this year and have been tossing around the idea of putting a curve on the front the only problem is my wife doesn't want it more than one step up on to the deck.

This would mean that I would need a flush beam not a drop beam but I have only build curved decks on drop beams before.

Is there anyway to do this that I am over looking?

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Old 01-30-2016, 11:05 AM   #2
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Do what I do, just build it the way you want to and shrug your shoulders when it's done.
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Where are you located?
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Build it freestanding, right on the ground. Dig out, fabric and stone, build.
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I'm in Alberta Canada. The problem with building right on the ground is the frost we get here would destroy it


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I'm in Alberta Canada. The problem with building right on the ground is the frost we get here would destroy it


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Thats where I thought you were from.

Build it with steel, flush beams from the field and where it is curved switch to a much small joist, closer spacing with a drop beam. Going to be some shallow but beefy joists and beams but it will definitely work.
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Interesting problem.
Could you do a grade beam on piers out of concrete as your "beam" then then run your joists on that. You'd have to put something under the grade beam to allow for frost heave, like FrostCusion or something.
http://www.beaverplastics.com/Geotec...stCushion.html

Without ventilation under the deck though, wont it just rot anyways?
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I usually trench for the beams. Dig for piers as usual. Line the trench with barrier cloth. Toss in 2 or 3 inches of gravel on top of cloth. Place beam on saddle/concrete pier.
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Pour a continuous frost foundation, dig a crawl space, ground fabric, washed rock, maybe drain tile to sump, cover with ground level + 6" high deck. The stoop walls being your "drop' beams, PT wood or galvanized steel on house foundation wall for ledger board.

A real cheapster would just trench a footing, pour and then excavate the crawl space.... And the curve the footer of course, cantilever the deck to hide the footings?

Or pour a floating slab on Raised grade, with a thicken edge for the perimeter step, install sleepers, deck "boards" if you gotta have wood decking.

If you have a lot of $, make a full height basement addition/"fruit cellar addition which include a cellar stairway/ fire egress.

A 'Gun Vault' south of the border.

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Sonotubes. http://www.contractortalk.com/f50/radius-steps-123487/
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Not all ground level but the step and sunroom is

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A real cheapster would just trench a footing, pour and then excavate the crawl space.... And the curve the footer of course, cantilever the deck to hide the footing

I like this, A continuous radius trench footing would allow you to put the frame right on it.
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A real cheapster would just trench a footing, pour and then excavate the crawl space.... And the curve the footer of course, cantilever the deck to hide the footing

I like this, A continuous radius trench footing would allow you to put the frame right on it.
You could install a pt sleeper/nailer embedded or on top the footing

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You could install a pt sleeper/nailer embedded or on top the footing
maybe 4x6 on level gravel bed (6")...? like jonman would chime in say copper green..2 quick coats and get building. No picts.. You know your environment better then we do and remember happy wife happy life.
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I think I'll go with grade beams. Sounds like it's the best option


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Depends on how serious you want to take it...

If its a small deck, you could simply float it on cap blocks and let it heave as it desires.

Composite deck boards work well for the outside curve you might want. No kerf cuts needed...
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How big ?

If this is a small project the curve frame could be shop built. I am big on laminations for curves not angles with the decking hung over and cut to a radius.

And like the City Mon said Copper Green retreatment.

There are a few curved projects low to the ground on my Site.

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It's going to be about 14 wide and 12 deep with one end attached to my garage


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12 deep, sounds more like a swimming pool.

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