Footings - Page 4 - Decks & Fencing - Contractor Talk

Footings

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-26-2015, 03:44 PM   #61
GC/carpenter
 
Calidecks's Avatar
 
Trade: Decking, Railing, Carpenter/General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Anaheim Hills, California (OC)
Posts: 37,336
Rewards Points: 21,370

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by redwood View Post
I thought your holes were only 18" deep
If I charge 300 bucks a footing it's because it's only 16 or 18 inches deep. Of course there's times I have to go deeper. If I said never I beg your pardon.


I would say 90% are no more then 16 or 18. Some lower decks get zero footings

Last edited by Calidecks; 04-26-2015 at 03:47 PM.
Calidecks is online now  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 04-26-2015, 03:52 PM   #62
Pro
 
Tom M's Avatar
 
Trade: GC/ Interior & Exterior Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 9,843
Rewards Points: 4,348

Re: Footings


Have any of you California boys had mud slides issues?
Tom M is offline  
Old 04-26-2015, 03:53 PM   #63
GC/carpenter
 
Calidecks's Avatar
 
Trade: Decking, Railing, Carpenter/General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Anaheim Hills, California (OC)
Posts: 37,336
Rewards Points: 21,370

Re: Footings


This deck here had zero holes.
Attached Thumbnails
Footings-1430081915206.jpg   Footings-1430081931046.jpg  
Calidecks is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-26-2015, 03:55 PM   #64
GC/carpenter
 
Calidecks's Avatar
 
Trade: Decking, Railing, Carpenter/General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Anaheim Hills, California (OC)
Posts: 37,336
Rewards Points: 21,370

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom M View Post
Have any of you California boys had mud slides issues?
I've never had it happen on one of my jobs, but if the hill is going to collapse there's not much chance anything will hold, including the home. They have them quite often actually. I have an earth movement exclusion in my contract.
Calidecks is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to Calidecks For This Useful Post:
RobertCDF (04-26-2015)
Old 04-26-2015, 04:02 PM   #65
Pro
 
Tom M's Avatar
 
Trade: GC/ Interior & Exterior Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 9,843
Rewards Points: 4,348

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Californiadecks View Post
This deck here had zero holes.
Nice pictures Mike and of course great work.

Question: What are those jack stand looking things?
Tom M is offline  
Old 04-26-2015, 04:04 PM   #66
Pro
 
BCConstruction's Avatar
 
Trade: Construction
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 16,392
Rewards Points: 2,394

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom M View Post
Nice pictures Mike and of course great work.



Question: What are those jack stand looking things?

I see them on trailers around here. They put a bunch of them under it and jack them up and level them out. I'm always amazed they don't sink into the ground when it's wet
__________________
www.bcconstructionllc.com
BCConstruction is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to BCConstruction For This Useful Post:
Tom M (04-26-2015)
Old 04-26-2015, 04:10 PM   #67
Deck Parts Retailer
 
killerdecks's Avatar
 
Trade: deck builder
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wayne Mi
Posts: 3,108
Rewards Points: 888

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Californiadecks View Post
There's some work involved
for that kind of money we would use a mixer, and drag our stuff to the site in tea spoons
killerdecks is offline  
Old 04-26-2015, 04:18 PM   #68
GC/carpenter
 
Calidecks's Avatar
 
Trade: Decking, Railing, Carpenter/General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Anaheim Hills, California (OC)
Posts: 37,336
Rewards Points: 21,370

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by BCConstruction View Post
I see them on trailers around here. They put a bunch of them under it and jack them up and level them out. I'm always amazed they don't sink into the ground when it's wet
This particular gentleman didn't want that much permanent concrete in the ground. Those things will hold 18000 lbs each. Yes they are mobilhome pier jacks. They've been working well for 50 years. absolutely zero movement if done properly. I use a drawing issued by the state of Cali to get them approved. Makes it tough for cities to deny them when I show them a state standard drawing.
Attached Thumbnails
Footings-1430083430725.jpg  

Last edited by Calidecks; 04-26-2015 at 04:24 PM.
Calidecks is online now  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Calidecks For This Useful Post:
BCConstruction (04-26-2015), Tom M (04-26-2015)
Old 04-26-2015, 04:18 PM   #69
Pro
 
redwood's Avatar
 
Trade: Carpentry Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: California
Posts: 3,042
Rewards Points: 496

Re: Footings


The only experience I've had with mudslides is my own house and it didn't involve a deck.

While we were in Hawaii of course, there was a small slide from above our house on to the driveway. The week we got back, retaining walls went up.
__________________
Mark
Pioneer, CA
www.creative-redwood-designs.com
redwood is offline  
Old 04-26-2015, 04:20 PM   #70
Pro
 
redwood's Avatar
 
Trade: Carpentry Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: California
Posts: 3,042
Rewards Points: 496

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Californiadecks View Post
This particular gentleman didn't want that much permanent concrete in the ground. Those things will hold 18000 lbs each. Yes they are mobilhome pier jacks. They've been working well for 50 years. absolutely zero movement if done properly. I use a drawing issued by the state of Cali to get them approved. Makes it tough for cities to deny them when I show them is a state standard drawing.
I think if I submitted those to one of my building departments, they would laugh at me.
__________________
Mark
Pioneer, CA
www.creative-redwood-designs.com
redwood is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to redwood For This Useful Post:
John Hyatt (04-26-2015)
Old 04-26-2015, 04:21 PM   #71
GC/carpenter
 
Calidecks's Avatar
 
Trade: Decking, Railing, Carpenter/General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Anaheim Hills, California (OC)
Posts: 37,336
Rewards Points: 21,370

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by redwood View Post
I think if I submitted those to one of my building departments, they would laugh at me.
To bad. They work great.
Calidecks is online now  
Old 04-26-2015, 04:41 PM   #72
Pro
 
BCConstruction's Avatar
 
Trade: Construction
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 16,392
Rewards Points: 2,394

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by redwood View Post
I think if I submitted those to one of my building departments, they would laugh at me.

If there's trailers anywhere in your area they prob allow them for decks. Trailers weight vastly more than a deck does too. I wish I had a bunch more ground level decks but they are few and far between here.
__________________
www.bcconstructionllc.com
BCConstruction is offline  
Old 04-26-2015, 04:47 PM   #73
Pro
 
RobertCDF's Avatar
 
Trade: Custom deck builder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Posts: 9,177
Rewards Points: 1,533

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan_Watson View Post
Do you get a separate dumpster for the dirt or just in the same with the rest of the construction debris?
Same roll off. We get 30yd roll offs 99% of the time. The only time we get smaller is if there is not an existing deck (rare).
RobertCDF is offline  
Old 04-26-2015, 04:47 PM   #74
GC/carpenter
 
Calidecks's Avatar
 
Trade: Decking, Railing, Carpenter/General Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Anaheim Hills, California (OC)
Posts: 37,336
Rewards Points: 21,370

Re: Footings


Decks about 36" are a godsend for bad backs.
Calidecks is online now  
Old 04-26-2015, 05:02 PM   #75
Pro
 
RobertCDF's Avatar
 
Trade: Custom deck builder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Posts: 9,177
Rewards Points: 1,533

Re: Footings


If you're pouring a bunch of piers you gotta make some changes to your design. I have 8 piers on the current one (2 are because of a cantilever in the house where the hot tub is going to go) and it is spec'd to hold a 550 gal hot tub, has a roof cover and a built in stone BBQ, and it's 14'x50'. No point in putting in a forest of posts. Of course we also had 4.5 yds of concrete in the piers. still WAY cheaper than 10-15 more holes and 10-15 more 6x6 posts. At a cost of ~$80 for a 6x6x10' cedar post plus the labor to cut (notch for beam to sit on) and all the hardware, you could save money by using less piers.

I'm sure you would all agree if you're digging in rocky conditions it's usually easier to dig a 24" diameter hole than it is to dig a 12" dia hole. If you own a drill it's really almost a wash.
RobertCDF is offline  
Old 04-28-2015, 07:18 AM   #76
Pro
 
Dan_Watson's Avatar
 
Trade: Remodeling Contractor/Helical Post Installer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 4,336
Rewards Points: 2,688

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertCDF View Post
Same roll off. We get 30yd roll offs 99% of the time. The only time we get smaller is if there is not an existing deck (rare).
That is highly frowned upon here. One or two holes they wont know but anything more and they are going to say no more dumpsters if it happens again.

No dirt, no concrete, no electronics.
Dan_Watson is online now  
Old 04-28-2015, 02:19 PM   #77
Pro
 
Keeyter's Avatar
 
Trade: Home Remodels
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Wisconsin
Posts: 435
Rewards Points: 851

Re: Footings


I do a bit different - I base my off size and depth. Frost line here usually dictates but at a minimum 48" and I do a flat $5 an inch diameter per foot. 12" Hole 48" Deep 12" x $5 x 4' = $240

Now if I hit crappy soil or like the last one, an abandon septic tank that magically appeared, I had to either dig three additional holes or go down 15 Feet - I would like to try helical but I don't see much of that around here.
Keeyter is offline  
Old 04-28-2015, 02:22 PM   #78
Pro
 
Keeyter's Avatar
 
Trade: Home Remodels
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Wisconsin
Posts: 435
Rewards Points: 851

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertCDF View Post
If you're pouring a bunch of piers you gotta make some changes to your design.
I agree but we do alot of low decks that require 2 x 6 for beams and spans on that sucks. On elevated and second story decks you can go nuts with beam sizing but not that low crap
Keeyter is offline  
Old 04-28-2015, 02:28 PM   #79
Pro
 
Dan_Watson's Avatar
 
Trade: Remodeling Contractor/Helical Post Installer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 4,336
Rewards Points: 2,688

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Keeyter View Post
I agree but we do alot of low decks that require 2 x 6 for beams and spans on that sucks. On elevated and second story decks you can go nuts with beam sizing but not that low crap
Steel. Why deal with that PT crap.

Salesman out.
Dan_Watson is online now  
Old 04-28-2015, 04:52 PM   #80
Talking Head
 
EthanB's Avatar
 
Trade: Poking Things With Sticks
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 5,326
Rewards Points: 310

Re: Footings


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan_Watson View Post
Steel. Why deal with that PT crap.

Salesman out.
Between the steel and helical it's like RobertCDF and Greg Di had a baby.

I don't mind though. If enough of you guys get the word out then it will make it easier for me to switch.

Advertisement

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaws View Post
Planer.....
EthanB is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to EthanB For This Useful Post:
Dan_Watson (04-28-2015)


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Deck with no footings? brhokel606 Decks & Fencing 30 07-05-2014 12:23 PM
Adding on to porch footings openhearth Masonry 4 11-13-2013 12:38 AM
Shoddy Footings What to do? paul6 Masonry 40 05-03-2010 09:30 PM
Freestanding Deck Footings on a Newer Construction Home crazyson2001 Decks & Fencing 33 09-02-2009 03:48 PM
matching footings to footings ApgarNJ Masonry 10 06-07-2006 06:49 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?