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Old 01-27-2013, 10:14 PM   #21
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Looking good.
We had one last year with a 14'6" joist span with 18' between posts, we did one of our built up steel beams, 2 guys set it in a few parts then finished assembly in place.
Hey Rob,I had taken a look at your site for some ideas a couple
of weeks back.Very nice work there.Neat video too.

Anyways,since the HO wanted wrought iron rails and posts,I was
glad to see you had used something similar.
It looks like your posts were just bolted to the surface and I was
curious about how they are fastened.

This HO came up with his own idea for installation and we'll be
bolting to the rim joist with a saddle welded to the post.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:23 PM   #22
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doing a dry space type of thing there John?
Tried to talk him into it,since a patio will be going under
here in the spring,but he doesn't want any places where
birds or squirrels may nest.
Too bad,because be nice on rainy days,in the summer
and a good spot for winter storage for the tractor
he's got hiding under that tarp.
Mentioned something about building a barn in the spring,
so I didn't push it.
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Why do you block in between end of deck instead of rim plate .
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Why is a solid rim board not used?
Since joist hangers aren't required here, the blocking between the joist adds strength for connecting the rim joist.This way your not relying on just the
nails driven into the end grain.Nails are driven into the blocking.Makes a big difference.
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Are you not using steel columns and a saddle?
This was discussed with the HO,and was one option we presented.
In the end,since he wanted a dressed post,the 6"x6" was easier to
work with.

We also couldn't come up with an approved method to securely fasten the
steel columns to the piers or an easy way to erect and hold the posts in
place while we set the beam.
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John, that is some clean,well thought out frame

Tough foundation too really done right all together.

JonMon
Thanks Jon,
Believe it or not,this is all "seat of the pants" planning.
HO has daily requests for different ideas,and we're trying
to keep him happy without making major changes.
Fortunately (or not,he's retired and home most of the day
so decisions can be made pretty quick.
I'm just happy this is during the winter and don't have too
pressing a schedule..............gonna be here a while.
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You weld a 12" plate to the bottom of a 5" sq tube. 12" plate has 4 holes. Mount the anchor bolts to the concrete using a cardboard or steel template for the location. Let the concrete set up for 1 month, mount post, with plate, if welded @ shop. Otherwise weld it together on the site.

You could always drill anchor bolts into the concrete and use 1/2 galv. threaded rod. Mount plates and weld. Hilti makes all kinds of great concrete anchoring devices approved by all the engineers, icc, astm, etc.
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Hey Rob,I had taken a look at your site for some ideas a couple
of weeks back.Very nice work there.Neat video too.

Anyways,since the HO wanted wrought iron rails and posts,I was
glad to see you had used something similar.
It looks like your posts were just bolted to the surface and I was
curious about how they are fastened.

This HO came up with his own idea for installation and we'll be
bolting to the rim joist with a saddle welded to the post.
We've done surface mounted, inside rim mounted, and outside rim mounted it just depends upon each project.
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You weld a 12" plate to the bottom of a 5" sq tube. 12" plate has 4 holes. Mount the anchor bolts to the concrete using a cardboard or steel template for the location. Let the concrete set up for 1 month, mount post, with plate, if welded @ shop. Otherwise weld it together on the site.

You could always drill anchor bolts into the concrete and use 1/2 galv. threaded rod. Mount plates and weld. Hilti makes all kinds of great concrete anchoring devices approved by all the engineers, icc, astm, etc.
What,you don't like my posts?

I'm sure there are a few ways to have used the steel posts,but loss time,
waiting for the concrete to set,getting the welder there,and finishing the steel
posts to the HO's satisfaction,made it unfeasible in this situation.
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Your post are fine,
I've had 6x6 post bend the hard way on big sans and lots of weight.

You said you guys didn't know how was trying to help.
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Just an update on this project.

............................... Almost finished

HO keeps sidetracking me into other projects,but we'll finish,,,sometime in the
near future.

We wrapped the rim board around the Sun Room to tie everything together and
removed one post under it by adding steel across the span.

Also wrapped gutter from front of sun room,up the rake and across the main
house eave,to keep from putting down spout through deck.
Kind of dresses up the flat aluminum facia by giving it a nicer profile.

Sorry for the crappy pics,but camera's crapped out.
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New deck to pick apart boys

HO wanted it wide open at walk out and insisted on steel.
A little different than any I've done before,but I'm happy
with the results so far.
LOOKS GOOD. WE'VE SEVERAL LIKE THAT. IT'S EASY. I HOPE YOU ISOLATED THE STEEL FROM PT WITH VICOR GRACE TAPE OR SOMETHING.
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Interesting project, and a long time out, really.

John, I am wondering about the tall rail system. There must have been a purpose for it's design. It looks pretty frail.

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