Deck For A Restaurant Patio, Any Special Requirements? - Decks & Fencing - Contractor Talk

Deck For A Restaurant Patio, Any Special Requirements?

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-25-2019, 10:20 AM   #1
improving homes
 
platinumLLC's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing/Remodeling
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,031
Rewards Points: 348

Deck For A Restaurant Patio, Any Special Requirements?


In the process of bidding out a 32'x54' L shaped deck for a restaurant patio. I've done lots of decks before so that really isn't an issue. But never done one for a commercial patio before and I'm betting there are some specific codes/guidelines for these over your typical residential.

Like weight ratings, is there a specific chart for weight ratings and spans for commercial decks like this?

Gates, I'm assuming this will need to be locked from the outside but fire escape push handles from the inside like commercial doors. Also assuming there will have to be ramps at each gate to meet ADA codes.

Anything special about railing requirements?

I probably would pass on this normally but he's a great customer that I've done a lot of work for in the past and the actual building of the deck isn't a problem. Just don't know what additional codes are in place for a commercial patio like this. This will be in Wisconsin and I know there will be different codes for different states/areas but just looking for things you might have run into that I can look into. Thanks
platinumLLC is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 03-25-2019, 10:29 AM   #2
Goin' Down in Flames....
 
Seven-Delta-FortyOne's Avatar
 
Trade: Highwayman
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere Between Heaven And Hell
Posts: 4,325
Rewards Points: 1,012

Re: Deck For A Restaurant Patio, Any Special Requirements?


Commercial decks are far different from residential.

Guard rails must be 42".

Weight ratings for the ones I've done had to be 100 PSF.

Egress requirements are a big deal, as is ADAAG access.

Read up IBC Section 11B.

Lighting on the stairs and landings.

Usually, the step edges have to be painted with a bright color (yellow).

Egress signs,

Width might be 42", depending on Occupancy.

Hand rails, possibly both sides.

Attaching a deck to an existing structure will increase the main buildings Occupancy load, so that could trigger all kinds of upgrades, most notably life safety upgrades, like wider/more egress, sprinklers, along with more bathroom stalls, because Occupancy went up.



Just a few things.

Advertisement

Seven-Delta-FortyOne is online now  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Seven-Delta-FortyOne For This Useful Post:
BlueRidgeGreen (03-25-2019), hdavis (03-26-2019), XJCraver (03-26-2019)
Old 03-25-2019, 08:43 PM   #3
improving homes
 
platinumLLC's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing/Remodeling
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,031
Rewards Points: 348

Re: Deck For A Restaurant Patio, Any Special Requirements?


Thanks for the info. That was exactly what I was looking for. I will do some more reading tonight on what you said. It's not going to be attached to the building. And I'm thinking all ramps and no stairs.

Do you know what kind of lock if any these gates need if they are serving alcohol out there? My guess was a one way fire exit push bar type but that is just my guess. Maybe they only need a spring closure on it and no lock?

Thanks again for the info. It is a big help.
platinumLLC is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-25-2019, 09:58 PM   #4
Goin' Down in Flames....
 
Seven-Delta-FortyOne's Avatar
 
Trade: Highwayman
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere Between Heaven And Hell
Posts: 4,325
Rewards Points: 1,012

Re: Deck For A Restaurant Patio, Any Special Requirements?


As far as I know, because my family owns/has owned restaurants and bars, a confined area for the serving of drinks is determined by the local Alcoholic Beverage Control Board.

I would check with them about their requirements.

Check with the Fire Marshall as well for what they might want.

As you'll find in Commercial work, there are so many agencies involved, and so many different codes, that they often conflict.

I'm dealing with this right now in the Wine Bar project I'm doing. California Plumbing Code, and the County Department of Health, which governs Food Service establishments, have conflicting requirements for drains from kitchen fixtures. And the Federal ADAAG guidelines conflict with what the local Historic Preservation Council wants.
Seven-Delta-FortyOne is online now  
Old 03-26-2019, 08:17 AM   #5
improving homes
 
platinumLLC's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing/Remodeling
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,031
Rewards Points: 348

Re: Deck For A Restaurant Patio, Any Special Requirements?


Gotta love that. My first restaurant remodel was like that. I didn't really know the ins and outs and had to eat a lot of changes that the health inspector wanted after she did her pre inspection walk threw. From then on for every restaurant project I did I called the health inspector to do a walk threw with me before we even started so there was no surprises at the end. They love when I do that and makes final inspections pretty much a non issue at all.

Thanks again for the info it gives me a good place to start.
platinumLLC is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to platinumLLC For This Useful Post:
Seven-Delta-FortyOne (03-26-2019)


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Grading & base InterCounty Masonry 8 06-11-2013 10:11 PM
cedar fence and small historic deck swartzj81 Decks & Fencing 2 09-02-2012 03:01 PM
Freestanding deck puzzle Jackpine Savage Decks & Fencing 2 10-14-2011 03:52 PM
Patio converted into a deck Greg Di Decks & Fencing 20 10-22-2009 01:03 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?