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Old 09-14-2012, 08:27 PM   #1
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1000sqft screened porch is 16 x 19. Decking will be Mahogany with hidden faster system all post will be boxed out to look like columns painted white
I figure about 2 more weeks to go.
Mixed,100 bags of concrete for the footings. 16 total. Thank god I bought a mixer.

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How does the roof flash under the siding?

Are your first rafters nailed through the siding?

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mixed by hand?

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$375ish for those 100 bags, I could have had a truck deliver that much mud already mixed and my employees could have wheelbarrowed it in 30 mins, cost would have been about $300... saved $75 and a day of labor... I call a truck in for anything more than 30 bags.
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Any flashing where that covered porch runs into the house?
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Any flashing where that covered porch runs into the house?
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You don't drop your first step down from your deck, make the deck the top step? Or am I not seeing it right?

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Also what are your plans for stair railing? I noticed there aren't any posts.
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I get so much movement from the pt 4x4 rail posts while the decking goes on I cover them with white demo bags.

Not exposed to the Sun they seem to behave a lot better.

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I get so much movement from the pt 4x4 rail posts while the decking goes on I cover them with white demo bags.

Not exposed to the Sun they seem to behave a lot better.

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We quit decking around railing post 20 years ago, are you guys in the stone ages?
Frame, deck, rail, only way to go unless you have the rest of your life to build 1 project. Cut them rail post in after the decking is down, block the posts, rail. If the deck is low to the ground put your blocking in first, assuming that is you know how to use a tape, if you can't well than by all means put your rail post up before you deck, or better yet put the rail to the outside.
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We quit decking around railing post 20 years ago, are you guys in the stone ages?
Frame, deck, rail, only way to go unless you have the rest of your life to build 1 project. Cut them rail post in after the decking is down, block the posts, rail. If the deck is low to the ground put your blocking in first, assuming that is you know how to use a tape, if you can't well than by all means put your rail post up before you deck, or better yet put the rail to the outside.
What makes cutting the deck boards after quicker than cutting them before? You got to cut the deck boards either way. I have tried putting in the post blocking before the post go in and that didn't go to good as not every post was the same dimensions and some were half inch bigger or smaller.
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It must be all in what a person is used to doing.

Installing the rail posts/blocking upside down from under-neath after the decking is fastened would defentley not be faster/better for my outfit.

Geting the titebond adhesive in alone would be a real pain.

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What makes cutting the deck boards after quicker than cutting them before? You got to cut the deck boards either way. I have tried putting in the post blocking before the post go in and that didn't go to good as not every post was the same dimensions and some were half inch bigger or smaller.
you don't have to cut around the deck boards or make the deck boards fit around the post.
Frame your deck, deck it, cut the deck boards off @ the perimeter, with no cutting around the posts.
Take a 2x bolck find the inside of the floor joist, set your post on top of the marks drill and cut, slide the post in, it will look better than broyhill, basset and lane furniture.
If your lumber is that bad you should find another supplier
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you don't have to cut around the deck boards or make the deck boards fit around the post.
Frame your deck, deck it, cut the deck boards off @ the perimeter, with no cutting around the posts.
Take a 2x bolck find the inside of the floor joist, set your post on top of the marks drill and cut, slide the post in, it will look better than broyhill, basset and lane furniture.
If your lumber is that bad you should find another supplier
I can't picture what your explaining. If you don't cut the deck boards how do your posts come up through the deck boards without a hole?
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you don't have to cut around the deck boards or make the deck boards fit around the post.
Frame your deck, deck it, cut the deck boards off @ the perimeter, with no cutting around the posts.
Take a 2x bolck find the inside of the floor joist, set your post on top of the marks drill and cut, slide the post in, it will look better than broyhill, basset and lane furniture.
If your lumber is that bad you should find another supplier
This is what i do. Works good. No guess work.. i also add blocking in before. All my posts are the same dimension...
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I can't picture what your explaining. If you don't cut the deck boards how do your posts come up through the deck boards without a hole?
He does cut a hole into the finished deck. Thats why he uses the 2x block to find the edge of the rim board. Then marks the post out and cuts it out and slide the post in.
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You don't drop your first step down from your deck, make the deck the top step? Or am I not seeing it right?
In situations ive done that. I guess its an old school way to do it from balloon framing days.
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yea, save time make money, that's a new approach to deck building.
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You don't drop your first step down from your deck, make the deck the top step? Or am I not seeing it right?

Dropping the step down is another fine way that saves time and money, eliminates the need for another 4x4 at the top of the steps and a short rail section between the deck post and step post.
You hang your stairs from the 4x4 bolted to the frame and blocked and adding another 2x8 on the 4x4 under the frame. Than again you could always support simpson and buy one or two of their $10.00 brackets for the sake of a piece of scrap 2x8 which probably goes to the land fill anyway.

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He does cut a hole into the finished deck. Thats why he uses the 2x block to find the edge of the rim board. Then marks the post out and cuts it out and slide the post in.
Ok that makes sense now. Just couldn't picture how he was getting a post in without cutting the boards. I have seen people cut their holes from underneath after the blocking is in. I would do it like that but the material around here is dimensioned awful. One post wouldn't fit in another posts hole and I like being able to shim the posts square between the blocking before I tighten them up. Not sure how easy that would be after the decks down though.

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