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Old 12-08-2014, 06:51 PM   #1
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Never done a deck around a large tree before but have this once coming up. is there any advice as to what to do around the tree as in the amount of gap between tree and deck boards as an example or any code issues i may open up doing this?

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Old 12-08-2014, 07:03 PM   #2
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I haven't done one either, but the most obvious thing I think an inspector would look at is the potential for someone to get a foot/leg jammed in the gap. You could probably bulletproof that with a railing (plus allow more gap for future growth), but doing it aesthetically might be a bit tough.

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The rail around the tree is a great idea. Didn't even consider that.
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My thoughts when reading this are how big of a tree and what type? A medium cottonwood might get a foot bigger in a few years but an oak may take much longer to gain much diameter. Haven't done this before but I would header it off 18" in all directions and do sacrificial infill framing to within 8", decking to within 4".
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I was thinking of some type of removable framing and decking as the tree grows too.
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I was thinking of some type of removable framing and decking as the tree grows too.
you second that,
I'll 2nd your 2nd.
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No idea what type the trees are. Shouldn't be hard to find out though but the removable framing is a great idea too.
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maybe frame the hole octagonal ,

that way you can get the decking closer to the tree
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Never done it either but I had thought the same idea of a well-done header a bit back that should never need to be touched. Then joists/blocking that are more removable. Such as the A35 connectors or something like that installed with screws instead of nails.
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Removable framing is a great concept, but face it, no one is going to get around to removing it until the tree is tight up against it. At which point, how do you get it loose?
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The way I have in mind would be removed from underneath even if the tree was touching it. That being said, we see plenty of stuff HO's are supposed to keep up with but don't so I agree with you.
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Never done a deck around a large tree before but have this once coming up. is there any advice as to what to do around the tree as in the amount of gap between tree and deck boards as an example or any code issues i may open up doing this?

No biggie. just keep it the framing about 5-6" away from tree for future growth and float the deck boards with in 3-4" of tree. The decking could cut back in 10years. Mac has a done quite a few I did all in all 3-4 I gotta look deeper into in to my picts.
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The rail around the tree is a great idea. Didn't even consider that.
no rail.... maybe a small seat wrapped around the tree.
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My concerns would be digging the post in ... hitting roots, killing the tree, .. you know
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Yup
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I found a cpl. I know have the framing and at least 2 or 3 more others.

don't know how they got that way but yo get the idea.
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Just brainstorming but you could tighten up the gap around the tree by building a float ring to go on top of the decking with some spacers under it to allow drying. Hold the decking back 4" and the ring 1.5" so that little feet don't end up in it. The BO around here is really picky about that.

I think you could make a ring or polygon around the tree and have it be two pieces connected by a couple pieces of EPDM or bungie so that it would spread when the tree finally got to big.

It all depends on budget of course. You can always just run the decking to within a couple inches of the tree and remind the HO that they'll have to cut it back before it gets snug. I typically hold back hardwood deck framing 6" for hot tubs and there's no noticeable deflection so I wouldn't worry about making the joists removable.
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You can make the main framing whatever shape you want and temp framing run it as needed depending on trunk shape. I would either make the cut out circular or actually scribe it to the tree shape.
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If you go to my site, www.deckmastersllc.com , third row from the bottom under Showcase. A very cool tree we went around.

I put a half round rail on with alum balusters. I used a plywood template to get the curve right. The top,bottom and cap rail cut out of a glued up Ipe 3/4.

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If you go to my site, www.deckmastersllc.com , third row from the bottom under Showcase. A very cool tree we went around.

I put a half round rail on with alum balusters. I used a plywood template to get the curve right. The top,bottom and cap rail cut out of a glued up Ipe 3/4.

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