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Old 05-17-2012, 01:49 AM   #21
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That post was not to offend your work Robert I know yours is always the highest quality! Just a lower budget suggestion for the OP on his exposed wood. And one more note. I do know now nice warped wood looks but we do not do it here because the termites love the dark warped wood and the clad windows too we love those termites.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:55 AM   #22
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Workmanship looks great. Are those titan post anchors on the railing?
Yes they are. They worked awesome and I'll probably use them all the time from now on.
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Fancy indeed. Great work!
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I just finished this deck up today. Red Meranti decking and Cable rail railing system with Meranti posts and parts. It came out very good. I love how and looked and fortunately so did the HO.:thumb up:

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Thanks!
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Everything looks good, clean and good. HOWEVER...

Finish the damn sides of the stringers! that drives me bonkers when no one will skirt the sides of the stringers, it look hideous, no one wants to see that ugly PT.
Not to mention that railing is not up to UBC without them. Four-inch-sphere-rule on all railings everywhere. Maybe this home is in a place where there are no permits and inspections required (or maybe this deck was built under the radar?), but the deck should still be up to code. If an HO wanted me to build something that looked like that, I'd give him two options: Take the boards off after I'm done building and photographing it, or, find someone else to build it.

That having been said, the rest of the deck is beautiful.

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Not to mention that railing is not up to UBC without them. Four-inch-sphere-rule on all railings everywhere. Maybe this home is in a place where there are no permits and inspections required (or maybe this deck was built under the radar?), but the deck should still be up to code. If an HO wanted me to build something that looked like that, I'd give him two options: Take the boards off after I'm done building and photographing it, or, find someone else to build it.

That having been said, the rest of the deck is beautiful.
I think what you and Robert are talking about are two completely different things. Robert is suggesting that he wrap the face of the stringer.

You seem to be suggesting that he fill in the space between the rail and the stair tread. Which makes no sense to me. The 4" spacing does not also apply to that space under the stair handrail.
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It's my understanding that it's a 6" sphere in those stair corners. With the 2 x4 rail on the bottom it meets code.
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I think what you and Robert are talking about are two completely different things. Robert is suggesting that he wrap the face of the stringer.

You seem to be suggesting that he fill in the space between the rail and the stair tread. Which makes no sense to me. The 4" spacing does not also apply to that space under the stair handrail.
Yes, but no... I do this for my stairs. It follows the 4" rule (even though it's not required) and it look a heck of a lot better.
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That actually doesn't look to bad. I see why you need it. The bottom rail does go all the way to the treads.

I think that's the best solution I've seen so far for easiest/fastest way to get the job done. And done right.
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Those stairs are a water trap.
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The 4" spacing does not also apply to that space under the stair handrail.
Uh, yeah it does.

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Okay, I...was...wrong. After googling it I found that there is indeed an exception for this. I never knew that, so I have always built my stair railings to meet the 4" sphere rule everywhere. I will continue to do so.

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Those stairs are a water trap.
I was thinking leaf and debris build up which in turn color fades (tannin stain) the decking. I guess the homeowner has to made aware of this with that type of stair skirting and use the leaf blower when needed. maybe there is enough spacing around the edges to allow water to escape though...
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Uh, yeah it does.
Pg 18 http://www.awc.org/Publications/DCA/DCA6/DCA6-09.pdf 6" for the stair guard rail. (based on IRC not UBC)
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I was thinking leaf and debris build up which in turn color fades (tannin stain) the decking. I guess the homeowner has to made aware of this with that type of stair skirting and use the leaf blower when needed. maybe there is enough spacing around the edges to allow water to escape though...
There is room for water to drain out, BTW we get WAY less rain than you guys out east, it's not a problem. We are considered semi arid desert.

This composite decking doesn't get staining issues (it's a quality product).
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Yeah, I wouldn't be too concerned about trapping water per se. Treads should be pitched slightly to shed water anyway. But closing the ends off like that makes them more difficult to keep clean, and debris in the corners will hold moisture.

Huckleberry, the triangle formed by the tread, riser and rail bottom is only required to stop a 6" sphere.
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Yeah, I wouldn't be too concerned about trapping water per se. Treads should be pitched slightly to shed water anyway. But closing the ends off like that makes them more difficult to keep clean, and debris in the corners will hold moisture.
Treads should not be pitched. I'm envisioning your stairs with the top step shedding its water to the next step and so on down the staircase. Sounds like a water feature. The space between the tread boards is plenty for water to drain out. Risers and skirts do trap leaves and debris, but most women I know are constantly sweeping everything off within an inch of its life anyway. I'd rather have the space enclosed so that when I drop my _____________, I don't have to walk all the way back down the stairs and play hunt-the-____________.

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Already corrected myself.
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Treads should not be pitched.
That's an opinion, not a rule. Code allows for it.

Agreed though, that any pitch should be nearly undetectable.
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Thanks Tin I was thinking this guy has never formed for concrete stairs where pitch becomes very important.
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Thanks Tin I was thinking this guy has never formed for concrete stairs where pitch becomes very important.
I'm aware of the required pitch for exterior flatwork, but that's apples and oranges. We're talking about a wooden deck here. With space between the wood treads and risers.
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Never heard of a 2x12 tread? :

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