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Old 12-06-2007, 12:21 AM   #21
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Mac, yes I saw that. He admitted that he was not fluent with the program. I was just asking if anyone else was.

I've been using cad for probably 16 years. so I'm not a neophite when it comes to drawing things. For example, in my current program, I can draw a section of a bench and then extrude it along a line. Still there is lot's of cleanup and such. My program doesn't have the visual impact that some of these programs have. However, it is great for construction documents and you can draw just about any element.

I'm just always looking for a better way.

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Old 12-06-2007, 01:28 AM   #22
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I'm just growly tonight, this has been a less than pleasant week due to a number of things.

Sorry for jumping on your post...

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Mac, yes I saw that. He admitted that he was not fluent with the program. I was just asking if anyone else was.

I've been using cad for probably 16 years. so I'm not a neophite when it comes to drawing things. For example, in my current program, I can draw a section of a bench and then extrude it along a line. Still there is lot's of cleanup and such. My program doesn't have the visual impact that some of these programs have. However, it is great for construction documents and you can draw just about any element.

I'm just always looking for a better way.

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just keep using auto cad its a superior design tool in so many ways, as far as making nice renderings, import dwg's to sketchup and render voila

as far as take offs there is no substitute to layering, the human brain, and a pencil

you can however create a library/inventory of blocks of every single item you may possibly use, than assemble/modify blocks to create a design. This would enable you to truely have a 100% automatic and totally reliable and accurate take off mechanism. Creating such a library would be extremely tedious, and actually creating a design by this method (block insertion) would be slow and tedious as well, drawing in layers and doing a manuel take off is the way to go

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Old 12-08-2007, 01:59 PM   #24
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I got a online presentation of DeckTools the other day. I submitted a drawing of a project that I had done with a lot of variables. In the hour and a half of the presentation, I was impressed.

But there were some definate limitations that did not really have to do with the drawing portion of the program. It was the output. Dimensions are done automatically, it is either all or none. Every little dimension and no way to erase individual dimensions. Printing output is not done within the program, but shipped to Word and printed in a PDF format. That's great, but scaling is difficult to setup. The default page if printed directly is a random scale. It is scaled, but not to a common scale that we would use in the field. To many dimenensions clutters up the drawing.

My understanding is that these are issues that they want to address, but they are not going to be implemented soon (i.e. not in the next major release).
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Good info there. I have been looking for quite awhile myself and always find myself going back to auto cad or one of the punch 3d programs. There not great but the very fast 3d renderings are priceless for the h.o. Really cheap for what you get out of it. I still do my take off's manually by layering as well. I trust myself to much to use anything else. It really does not take that long but I have a list of things sitting by my computer of items like flashing, tecos, hangers, etc so I dont forget anything. So far it works for me.
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I use TurboCad v12 Pro and have been using it since v4

They have a v4 pro free learning edition for 2D drawing available and you can also down load the pdf training manual for it

http://www.al-ki.com/tcad/download.php

Direct link to Program
http://www.freecad.com/cgi-bin/dcd/d...etup_files.exe

Direct link to training manual

ftp://ftp.imsisoft.com/download/turb...TurboCADv4.pdf


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Anyone know a good place for simple AutoCAD tutorials? i want to do the drawings for my house
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Anybody using Luxwood Software for deck design?
I met with a professor from University of Southern Maine who wrote the back end of it and says that it can do what we all want - look pretty and still do engineering calcs, takeoffs, etc.
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I dropped them a line requesting a price. It looks like it could be a contender. Thanks for the tip Marty.
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$2865 for the luxwood program. don't know if its quite worth that but I did not spend a ton of time looking it over.
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Marty, I have experminted (bought) almost every deck CAD program on the market. I've used all that has been mentioned in this thread and after the AutoCAD Planix 3D program was not upgraded to Windows, purchased the Luxwood program (Back 10 years ago it was marketed as the 20/20 lumber module by North American Digital). I've also played with SoftPlan, 3D Architect, AutoCAD, TurboCAD, etc. Four programs are marketed specifically for deck design and they are DeckTools, Luxwood, Seljax and CADQuest. I have all four, but almost excusively use either DeckTools or the 20/20 (Luxwood) programs. The Luxwood program is quick, has fairly good 3D graphics for the more simple decks, but requires a lot of pen & ink notations to fit my designs (girders are shown as side mounts to pilings, not notched or set on pilings; no cantilever bench option; no picture framing; no elongated step option; no radius decks; etc). But quick and helps a client visualize their deck. DeckTools has fantastic graphics, but requires a lot of custom framing use until you build a library of the details that you use the most. I do not use any of the material take-offs, but do use the drawings to obtain the building permits.

I think my issue with Luxwood is that the program (the deck module of the lumber package) has not had any significant updates in 10 years and I had a hard time paying a $400 per year service fee after a $1,200 entry fee. I understand from their web site that have ditched the dongule (sp) and made some improvements with types of materials. It will be worth another look at Expo this year. All of the DeckCAD guys will be showing there (DeckTools, Luxwood, Seljax, and CADQuest).

Robert, the price you were quoted sounds like the complete 20/20 lumber package which includes the separate modules of decks, garages, polebarns, and fences. Often, there are some super discounts if purchased while at Expo. The annual "service" fee still bothers me -- not worth it if they are setting on the program and not improving. Thanks. Casa Decks.
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No, they want $6,000 for the entire package... You have already convinced me its not worth it. If it does not have pic framing and radius (I keep desiging them, but no one has forked the money over yet)

The way any of them design the framing is not important to me, as I do a lot of uniqe stuff with my framing so I doubt I would use the direct print off for my plans.

I think decktools will be the way for me to go once I get tired of sketchup.

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