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Old 06-14-2015, 07:26 PM   #1
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Anything Wrong With This Framing?


I was called to repair this deck on a beachfront cottage, probably built in the 30s or so. I'm really not seeing too much wrong, but I thought I'd run it by the guys here. The second picture is a close up of the first. Think that Romex will be a problem with inspection? The last pic is the deck cantilever. Hey, at least they used a hanger, right?
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Old 06-14-2015, 07:32 PM   #2
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Oh, the stairs have a bit of rot and there are two layers of decking above. And I'd be lying if I didn't admit the 32" high railing had a bit of wriggle and rot. I know we can't discuss pricing, but they let it slip that the other guy was between $1,500 and 2 large to fix it.

And I only had one beer with lunch. I'm holdin' that phone camera purty level.

In that second pic, the doubled 2x8 inside the notch and not pictured does not extend all the way to the other post, but it's about 3/4 of the way down. Might that explain the dip?

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Nothing wrong at all. I would feel safe on it and also adding a nice roof to keep the sun off.
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I would guess since it was built in the 30s or so ..The hangers were added later to help holdings ?
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Nothing wrong at all. I would feel safe on it and also adding a nice roof to keep the sun off.
Excellent idea although the roof covering may take them over budget.

Picture the Gulf of Mexico, the beach, a line of homes, an access road, then this house. The houses in front, about the same age and style, sell for a million dollars. They picked up this for about four hundred thousand.

The weather was great, but I thought I smelled "teardown" in the air.
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Yes, that is the smell of tear-down with extreme prejudice.

I caught a whiff of it from here in California.

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Wow. 1,500 to 2 grand. That'll at least get them some new timberlocks and a few nails in the hangers. For that price, you could also throw in a couple of laminated 2x4s to make sure it is even more structurally sound than it is now.

I think it would be a grand just to get me to walk under it and touch it. People amaze me.
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I would guess since it was built in the 30s or so ..The hangers were added later to help holdings ?
The hangers could have been added in '57 because they were invented in '56:

http://www.strongtie.com/about/our_history.html

My wife was invented in '58.
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The hangers could have been added in '57 because they were invented in '56:

http://www.strongtie.com/about/our_history.html

My wife was invented in '58.
I am sure you have shared that bit o information with her a few times.
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$2,000 to fix it? That's a lot for just a little spackling.
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This thread need a new name:
"is there anything RIGHT with is framing"
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Oh, the stairs have a bit of rot and there are two layers of decking above. And I'd be lying if I didn't admit the 32" high railing had a bit of wriggle and rot. I know we can't discuss pricing, but they let it slip that the other guy was between $1,500 and 2 large to fix it.

And I only had one beer with lunch. I'm holdin' that phone camera purty level.

In that second pic, the doubled 2x8 inside the notch and not pictured does not extend all the way to the other post, but it's about 3/4 of the way down. Might that explain the dip?

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I would have to double my "good" price....just to be motivated on this one.
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Run Forest Run !!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a good one. Got some major Yucks

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Liberal caulking will lend a nice finished look to it.
Always charge more for caulking....
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it lasted 80 years, we even look bad after that long and some of us have metal supports long b4 that
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it lasted 80 years, we even look bad after that long and some of us have metal supports long b4 that
How can you even argue with anything that lasts 80 years. It might not be pretty but it did its job.
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When I come across a deck that looks horrendous, the first thing I ask is "how old is this". If the customer says 40 years or more I owe that structure some respect.
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I was called to repair this deck on a beachfront cottage, probably built in the 30s or so. I'm really not seeing too much wrong, but I thought I'd run it by the guys here. The second picture is a close up of the first. Think that Romex will be a problem with inspection? The last pic is the deck cantilever. Hey, at least they used a hanger, right?
they might want a repair because of the DNR rules or new set back rules which only allow a repair and no rebuild due to newer rules that have been created since it was built.
in the 20' or 30's it may have been a rural area.

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They don't build them like they usta.

Thank god.

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