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Old 02-16-2009, 08:09 PM   #1
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Soldered Joints


i am a plumber, we like to solider everything
is it legal, to solder with solder iron , connections in residential wireing
i am talking about the pigtail connections in the switch boxs and receptical boxs,
copper to copper
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Old 02-16-2009, 08:10 PM   #2
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Yes, it's still legal, and some people still do it. It's just a wasteful practice with no defined benefit.

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It certainly is "legal". You just can't rely on the solder alone for the connection.
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i hear ya ...i ran into a bunch of loose grounds..causing light bulbs to pop to soon...i tighten wire nuts and the bulbs last longer
so....frig that..gonna solder the ends..
is there a code on this? is it in like connections ,approved ?
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Yes, it's still legal, and some people still do it. It's just a wasteful practice with no defined benefit.
True, plus it will make future service work a bitch.
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Didn't we just do this dance?
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Didn't we just do this dance?
Yeah. Knucklehead thinks loose grounds cause lamps to fail.
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yes we did...but sence i am not a electrican,,,that site refused me to post
i am a plumber not a electrictian..and that was elec.talk.,com
so..i came over here ..i am argueing with a bud on the legality of this
he says no i say yes...
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But loose neutrals can right?

Thinking back to a job where the light bulbs were dim. As soon as you started the saw they got really bright and popped. Poor neutral connection.
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thank you for calling me a knuckle head...i said i was a turd herder not a sparky..the lights kept poping, then when i tighten the ground it seemed to stop..so i figured..
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.i am argueing with a bud on the legality of this
he says no i say yes...
Is this one of those cases where two guys are arguing about a code issue, and neither one of you own a code book?

check out NEC 110.14(B)
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it could very well be the neutrals, i tightened them also
it seems to be in more than one location..
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Can we use duct tape for leaky sink pipes?
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yes..2 plumbers debating a electrical problem at my house
the loose wires...popping bulbs..have been pissen me off
so i am going to either go thru the house tightening nuts or soldering pigtails.. and tightening ground bar, nuts in panel.
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no...dont use duct tape...buy that spray stuff they sell on tvaround 2 am
be sure to read directions as you spray
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no...dont use duct tape...buy that spray stuff they sell on tvaround 2 am
be sure to read directions as you spray
Doesn't reading the instructions as you spray make it difficult to both read the instructions and spray?
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Doesn't reading the instructions as you spray make it difficult to both read the instructions and spray?
no you just hold the can in front of you and spary towards you and read real close to it...
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Yes, it's still legal, and some people still do it. It's just a wasteful practice with no defined benefit.
X2, IMO there is a time and place for soldering electrical connections and i wouldnt bother for this industry. But when i worked in the automobile repair field a soldered joint/heat shrink was the way to go to prevent water intrusion and breakage from vibration. Butt splices are noted for crimping on the wire and over time the road vibration will cause it to fail over time.
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Can we use duct tape for leaky sink pipes?

I hate you for bringing up bad memories, theres nothing like crawling in someone else **** that could of all been prevented w/out the use of duck tape.
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...theres nothing like crawling in someone else **** that could of all been prevented w/out the use of duck tape.
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