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Old 08-06-2010, 02:53 AM   #101
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Some might think 277v is just a tad bit more than 240v, but in reality, its much more dangerous. 240v is only 120v over ground, 208v over ground if it's a wild leg on a delta system. So the worst you'll have is 240v phase to phase.

On a 277v wiring, the minimum shock voltage comes in at 277v. If you touch a different phase, that's 480v.
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:40 PM   #102
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only if you use the purple wire nuts and lots of electrical tape
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hey, my son is a 12 year old retard so could we at least lay off the 12 year old retard jokes?
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well, on the plus side, i'm thinking that drywalling, deck building, framing, and plumbing are all easier than tiling...on the residential level anyway...

i mean, framing, plumb/level/square - how hard is that?

drywalling - christ, they're all high when they do it, how hard can it be?

deck building - stagger joints...simple...

and plumbing needs to know 3 things...s**t runs down hill, payday is on friday, and don't chew your nails...a 10 yr old retard can remember those...

so, obviously...the hardest part of residential construction is dealing with the wife...
while funny i think this simplifies a few trades. suffice it to say that any individual trade is difficult to do really well. painting is great for homeowners, but that doesn't mean you're an expert if you make a room look nice. what about faux finishes, troublespots, proper application of caulk, filling holes on trim properly, etc. same goes for building decks, drywalling, etc. all trades can be quite challenging. that's why we have experts in each field, if any of it were truly easy then most of us would have any work.
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As Mahlere pointed out there is no licensing out here in the woods of Pa. My brother works for GC that has an electrical contractor pretty much full time, so he has picked up a lot over the years. I use him for very simple electrical work and have another contractor that I use for major electrical work.

He used to try and teach me the simpler things.."look it's easy" I know the basics and want to go no further. I work with wood, some roofing, vinyl and concrete when I have to, but wood is my game. I'm not even sure my insurance would cover me as I stated on my application that I sub them out.

My motto has always been, "I've never burned a house down adn today isn't a good day to start"
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while funny i think this simplifies a few trades.......
Yet, "120 volts is safe and so easy a 12-year old retard could do it!" is NOT an oversimplification?
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Yet, "120 volts is safe and so easy a 12-year old retard could do it!" is NOT an oversimplification?
no, just trying to find common ground here (pun intended). all i'm saying is that mahlere simplified a few trades by saying that decking and drywalling are "simple." never said anything about 120 being simple or safe. in fact i was saying the contrary - all these trades are more difficult than we might give credit for so we shouldn't snipe another's trade just because someone's life isn't on the line or because we think throwing paint or sheetrock on the wall is easy.
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no, just trying to find common ground here (pun intended). all i'm saying is that mahlere simplified a few trades by saying that decking and drywalling are "simple." never said anything about 120 being simple or safe. in fact i was saying the contrary - all these trades are more difficult than we might give credit for so we shouldn't snipe another's trade just because someone's life isn't on the line or because we think throwing paint or sheetrock on the wall is easy.
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while funny i think this simplifies a few trades. suffice it to say that any individual trade is difficult to do really well. painting is great for homeowners, but that doesn't mean you're an expert if you make a room look nice. what about faux finishes, troublespots, proper application of caulk, filling holes on trim properly, etc. same goes for building decks, drywalling, etc. all trades can be quite challenging. that's why we have experts in each field, if any of it were truly easy then most of us would have any work.
thank you captain obvious...
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send him a new one will ya? his broke...
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Since we're beating on certain trades;

How can you tell when a plumber is born?
............He's clutching a sawzall.

How can you tell when an electrician is born?
........... He's has a pacifier in one hand and a change-order pad in the other.

How can you tell when a carpenter is born?
........... Angels sing.

How can you tell when a building is about to fall down?
........... When the plumber walks by carrying a sawzall.

How do you know when an electrician is on the job?
........... Listen for the crying.

How do you know when a plumber is on the job?
........... Listen for the sawzall.


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make fun all you want, but I don't remember God ever exclaiming "Let there be walls" or "Let there be drywall"...
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Yet the sawzall don't do squat unless the electrician is done.
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Since we're beating on certain trades;

How can you tell when a plumber is born?
............He's clutching a sawzall.

How can you tell when an electrician is born?
........... He's has a pacifier in one hand and a change-order pad in the other.

How can you tell when a carpenter is born?
........... Angels sing.

How can you tell when a building is about to fall down?
........... When the plumber walks by carrying a sawzall.

How do you know when an electrician is on the job?
........... Listen for the crying.

How do you know when a plumber is on the job?
........... Listen for the sawzall.


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It's all right Jumbo I get a chuckle out of those everytime I get to sit next to a different plumber and electrician and eat my lunch.
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If ya wanna hear real bitchin', just wait until a bricklayer need to drop a deuce and there's no Port-a-Potty around.
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I can't resist;

How can you tell a carpenter has been to your house?
......... Your wife looks satisfied.

How can you tell a handyman has been to your house?
......... Your wife looks satisfied, but the door knob still doesn't work.

How can you tell an electrician has been to your house?
......... You have a magnetic binky on your frig with his number, and later your wife suddenly thinks maybe you are better endowed compared to other men.

How can you tell a plumber has collapsed your house?
........ When he passes you on a stretcher still clutching his sawzall.

How can you tell a tiler has been to your house?
....... When your neighbor's goat looks satisfied.

I love other trades.

Well I'm off to the beach for a week, think I'm in need for some R&R.
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electricians are so smart, but they can't figure out how to use a broom, dust pan/brush and put it in a dumpster when I leave all that stuff onsite! hahahaaha
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Try back charging them for the time it takes to clean up after them, that's what they'd do.

One last bash.... Plumbers who love cast iron bathtubs who.... woooo nelly, let me form it as a joke...

When do you know a plumber's back is out?
........ When his supplies show up.



Ok... I'm done kicking other trades.




Why can't we all just get along?

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