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Old 12-17-2016, 10:15 PM   #1
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Been having this problem come up, where the plug slips out over time. When they go to vacuum, the plug keeps coming out so they're always having to stop and plug it back in.

I've been replacing them with the Leviton heavy duty outlets. They cost six dollars an outlet. I can only find them at Home Depot, I've looked at multiple places. So far they are working good, plug never falls out.

My question for the electricians is when you submit a bid, do you just assume that you'll use the cheaper ones? The kind that don't hold a plug? Or do you ever offer to instal the heavy duty kind? And have you had callbacks with the cheaper outlets because of plugs falling out?

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Buy P&S instead.

They will hold the CORDS in to the 'outlets' better. If your plugs are falling out, then the device is broken.

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I use the cheap ones. Never had that issue.


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That's why they're 49 cents instead of a couple bucks.
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I've had them in personal house for 10 years. How long do I need to wait?


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News flash, everyone: EVERY receptacle will eventually get loose.

A lot depends on how often you insert and remove cords. If you do this two or three times a day (like a razor, hairdryer etc in a bathroom), it will get loose faster than the receptacle in the living room where you plug in the vacuum cleaner once a week.

And that receptacle will fail sooner than the one behind your entertainment center that you plugged your big screen into 10 years ago and covered up.

Yes, a general rule is the more you spend on a device, the longer it will last. But if you use it frequently, it will get loose. Live with it.
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Been having this problem come up, where the plug slips out over time. When they go to vacuum, the plug keeps coming out so they're always having to stop and plug it back in.

I've been replacing them with the Leviton heavy duty outlets. They cost six dollars an outlet. I can only find them at Home Depot, I've looked at multiple places. So far they are working good, plug never falls out.

My question for the electricians is when you submit a bid, do you just assume that you'll use the cheaper ones? The kind that don't hold a plug? Or do you ever offer to instal the heavy duty kind? And have you had callbacks with the cheaper outlets because of plugs falling out?

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Am I the only person who hates the way duplex outlets look?

That outlet in your picture looks old just replace it with another one and you should get many years out of it.

Can't recall ever having to change an outlet because of it coming loose

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If you had electricity, running water and a toilet in your house we could give you a more accurate estimate.


What if I only have a toilet but no running water?
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What if I only have a toilet but no running water?
Then you'd be living in an outhouse!

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News flash, everyone: EVERY receptacle will eventually get loose.

A lot depends on how often you insert and remove cords. If you do this two or three times a day (like a razor, hairdryer etc in a bathroom), it will get loose faster than the receptacle in the living room where you plug in the vacuum cleaner once a week.

And that receptacle will fail sooner than the one behind your entertainment center that you plugged your big screen into 10 years ago and covered up.

Yes, a general rule is the more you spend on a device, the longer it will last. But if you use it frequently, it will get loose. Live with it.
This is why a spec sheet or very specific SOW are critical.

Without specific callouts for products you will get the POS low bid crap.

dealing with high end custom jobs high dollar stuff is automatically included.
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Am I the only person who hates the way duplex outlets look?

That outlet in your picture looks old just replace it with another one and you should get many years out of it.

Can't recall ever having to change an outlet because of it coming loose

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You're not the only one who hates the look of them. I had one client ask for them to be changed to pop outs

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You're not the only one who hates the look of them. I had one client ask for them to be changed to pop outs

Adorne is a pain in the butt.

Receptacles wear out. I just replace them with new resi grade that are tamper resistant. The residential grade seem to last at least 40+ years, so I don't worry about swapping them out for residential grade again.

In the US, we have residential, spec, super-spec, and hospital grade receptacles.
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They are a huge pain in the backside for sure. We had to change the device boxes to double bubble to fit them in. But customer wants, customer gets unless I have a very good reason to say no.
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This is why a spec sheet or very specific SOW are critical..............
For a house?








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you bet....absolutely for a house....

that way there are no arguments with HO's and subs know what to supply.

I do not do it any other way........
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you bet....absolutely for a house....

that way there are no arguments with HO's and subs know what to supply.

I do not do it any other way........
I guess I've been doing it wrong for 20+ years then. And I guess I'll keep doing it wrong for another 20+ years.

Never spec'd devices for a dwelling, and I don't think I ever will. I just ask the HO what color and style. I buy what they want, install it, get paid and sleep well.
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I guess I've been doing it wrong for 20+ years then. And I guess I'll keep doing it wrong for another 20+ years.

Never spec'd devices for a dwelling, and I don't think I ever will. I just ask the HO what color and style. I buy what they want, install it, get paid and sleep well.
if what you do works for you don't change.

in my case you are not specking out devices to HO....

I am specking them out to you.....

That way I know what I am getting and can guarantee a quality job.

I work WITH my subs not against you guys....

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