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Old 03-26-2011, 01:00 PM   #1
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Hi all,
I am Jon and I have a couple of quick questions. I am "new" to bidding commercial jobs...and I want to know some of the rules of the road...

Do the ec's include the Fire Alarm system in their bid? Or do the gc's take seperate bids for the Fire Alarm.

If you can run a job in mc...do you bid it as mc...or do you bid it as hard pipe?

How do you determine your markup/overhead/labor percentages? Are there any set formulas...or national standards?

I am used to bidding residential jobs...however the residential market isn't what it once was...so I am trying to broaden my horizons without losing...much if any money...I'd rather make money obviously...but I definately don't want to lose money... Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Jon
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Old 03-26-2011, 01:05 PM   #2
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Does your state require special licensing to install fire alarm systems?

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Yes, it appears my state does require specific licensing for Fire Alarm installers...on the texas department of insurance I found the requirements for my state, I can't post a link...but if the info is needed I can copy and paste I suppose. I know the company I used to work for had other companies involved with their fire alarm systems however I didn't do any bidding for that company so I don't know the specifics... is it possible to omit the fire alarm from my bid to have the gc do that themselves? Would that hurt my chance of winning the bid? Thank you for your help
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Each state is different when it comes to licensing for FA systems.

Someone from Texas will chime in I'm confident.
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I just found this in the blue print notes...so I am assuming that means I need to provide...or contract out the fire alarm system...

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Hi all,
I am Jon and I have a couple of quick questions. I am "new" to bidding commercial jobs...and I want to know some of the rules of the road...

Do the ec's include the Fire Alarm system in their bid? Or do the gc's take seperate bids for the Fire Alarm.

If you can run a job in mc...do you bid it as mc...or do you bid it as hard pipe?

How do you determine your markup/overhead/labor percentages? Are there any set formulas...or national standards?

I am used to bidding residential jobs...however the residential market isn't what it once was...so I am trying to broaden my horizons without losing...much if any money...I'd rather make money obviously...but I definately don't want to lose money... Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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In the job I just finished (as a GC, not an electrical contractor) the electrician was responsible for the fire alarm. However, they just pulled the wires and subbed out the actual install to Simplex.

It should be clearly spelled out in the bid documents.

You bid things as cheap as you can and still meet the specification. If it doesn't specify something, then I would assume you are meeting code as a minimum.

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