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Old 07-24-2011, 05:27 PM   #21
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:47 PM   #22
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gotta pass frame before you can have a drywall inspection...).
You guys have drywall inspections up in Denver? I mean I get why some things must be inspected. Electrical can fail and start fires. Plumbing can fail and destroy anything below it. Framing can collapse. What the hell is a bad drywall job going to do besides look bad? If they're going to be inspecting drywall, let's just have inspectors for the following too:

trim carpentry / cabinets / door hardware
paint (with a pre-paint caulking inspection)
tile / carpet / hardwood

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Please remove yourselves a bit from our lives and trust people to do the right thing most of the time. The hassles you bog us down with are 10 times worse than the few and far between hacks that you've managed to stop from time to time.

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Drywall protects everything from fire. They will be looking for areas that are not drywalled or have some sort of a penetration that was not sealed correctly.
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:45 PM   #24
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Almost Leo, that's certainly part of it, but their other concerns are nailing patterns in your regular places like walls and ceilings, and the other concern is the right products being used in wet areas, no drywall no green board in wet areas and the proper rust proof fasteners in wet areas.

But, I agree, it is never ending and adds expense to any project because of the way projects have to halt from one inspection to the next.

What's worse here is trying to keep track of what inspections can be grouped together or not. Some places you can do all your roughs, electrical, plumbing, mechanical and framing together at the same time and in some places framing is another day, every muncipality here has it's own way of doing things. Part of the reason I'm not real happy about inspectors like this one we are dealing with seemingly just making up another inspection to add on top of us.
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Drywall protects everything from fire. They will be looking for areas that are not drywalled or have some sort of a penetration that was not sealed correctly.
Good point. I do have somewhat of a rebuttal to the need for a specific "drywall" inspection however.

Any structure where there are fire barriers and there are penetrations through said barriers, ie not so much a house but rather an apartment building / commercial structure, typically gets an annual fire inspection from the local fire department. They also get this fire inspection before they can be officially opened to the public. I don't know if a newly built home requires a fire inspection though. Maybe you can educate me on that one.

In a single family home, where hollow core doors are allowed throughout, the 1/2" drywall is not going to be of much help in isolating someone from a blaze. Perhaps in the garage it might be, as many jurisdictions require a 20 minute door from the garage to the house (due to storage of flammables), but again, unless you were an idiot and hung only 1/4" rock on that wall, the 1/2" rock should have a 30 minute rating which is more than the door. I could be wrong though. I'm not a new home builder and don't have to consider these codes.

To inspect the drywall just to make sure it's nailed off properly seems as picky as to check the notch depth of the trowel used for the tile in the shower, how the cabinets were fastened or whether primer was used before painting.

Thankfully, most of what I do doesn't require inspectors. I mean, can you think of one government employee, besides maybe a mailman, that you actually don't mind dealing with?
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Drywall inspection is often better described as a screw inspection, to make sure that the sheets are properly fastened. Fire caulking would normally be inspected during a cieling cover inspection.

Even in the Puget-Willamette-Frasier seismic zone, screw inspections are becoming rare, with most cities abandoning this requirement

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Thankfully, most of what I do doesn't require inspectors
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I mean, can you think of one government employee, besides maybe a mailman, that you actually don't mind dealing with?
Most of the inspectors I meet are sincere, and want to do their job, but not be unreasonable.

There are exceptions

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I bet
Well, you know, an inspector would probably make me do it over, and I don't have time for that.

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Most of the inspectors I meet are sincere, and want to do there job, but not be unreasonable.

There are exceptions
Lies! All inspectors are pure evil. Right up there with Rosie O'Donnel and Fred Phelps.
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Well, you know, an inspector would probably make me do it over, and I don't have time for that
Maybe if you weren't so rushed, you could do the job correctly, and it would be capable of passing an inspection first time


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Lies! All inspectors are pure evil.
Blaming the messenger, are we?
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Maybe if you weren't so rushed, you could do the job correctly, and it would be capable of passing an inspection first time
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Any update Mike? I heard on my police scanner today the report of a contractor "bitch slapping a building inspector". I didn't want to believe it was you but....
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Inspector called me today (hard to believe, never had that happen before) he got the fax read it thru and came up with some bizzare compromise to the whole thing of having the tile setter lay it out on the floor so he can look at it. He's very concerned with protecting the homeowners from a bad installation. LOL. I can't believe this sh*t. We now have another boss on the job, an inspector now who will be quarterbacking the install. He was reading me the instructions over the phone and telling me how the tile setter will 'install' it with staples first... on and on picking out bits and pieces of the manufacturers different options and suggests of how to do things, adding his own interpretations and turning it into how he wants to see this done.

F**k it. I can't believe this, but he's worn me out and I'm done with it. I called the tile setter and broke the news to him, he just about crapped himself when I told him what he now needs to do. He's been setting tile for 20 years and has never ran into this before either. It's his baby now and he will lose 1/2 a day over this and this inspector will get to come by and somehow approve all this and feel like he's protecting homeowners from retarded tile setters or something. This whole thing is just unbelievable to me. The next time I'm at this building dept I will ask the dept head about all this in person, see what he has to say about it all.

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I installed a nuheat mat awhile back and subbed the hookups to an electrician who is ALSO an inspector... here' how he inspected it. Pulled mat out of box/checked continuity/ hooked mat up to thermostat / turned on (heat worked) / he said "good to go"!

I thinset mat down and bury in slc. After that you can't turn on heat for days until mortar is fully cured. So Mike is right, there really is no inbetween step to inspect. There is absolutely NO WAY that I would thinset a mat down and not bury right away to wait days for some idiot to come back and look at the mat... for all I know, in the meantime a dog, cat, kid could walk on the mat, tamper with it or scratch up a wire.

Sounds like this guy is just on a power trip :woot:
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Obviously this inspector is riding your azz because he wants to squeeze some blood out of you. I wish they paid those fellas more so U wouldn't feel like you are in an episode of the Sopranos every time you deal with it.

I had an inspector inspect an electric toilet by taking a dump in it. Well come inspection time you are lucky if they are not trying to take a dump on you anyways. Or hang you upside down by your ankles and shake you until everything falls out of your pockets. Next time try to figure the money this inspector clown is gonna squeeze out of you into the bid. If he gets too annoying wear a wire and get him busted. Make sure to bring a camera so you can snap a picture when they put the handcuffs on him. http://www.odinelectric.net

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