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Old 08-29-2018, 04:11 PM   #1
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How To Get Rid Of Brown Outs / Surges.


Let me first say that I know jack sh*t about electrical stuff.

I've got a problem with flickering lights.

I don't know if the electrician that is working on this problem is jerking my chain or if he even knows what he's doing. But he said everything in the building (commercial) checks out ok. And, he suspects that it's probably the electricity that is coming in from the street. He has to rent some expensive equipment and set something up so that it will check the quality of the electricity coming in from the street over a period of a time (about a week).

Does this sound right?
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:08 PM   #2
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It's called a chart recorder, or its digital equivalent. Usually not horribly expensive to rent in terms of a commercial need to nail down the cause of a problem.

Certainly cheaper than paying someone to sit and monitor an oscilloscope without blinking until he goes blind.

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Let me first say that I know jack sh*t about electrical stuff.

I've got a problem with flickering lights.

I don't know if the electrician that is working on this problem is jerking my chain or if he even knows what he's doing. But he said everything in the building (commercial) checks out ok. And, he suspects that it's probably the electricity that is coming in from the street. He has to rent some expensive equipment and set something up so that it will check the quality of the electricity coming in from the street over a period of a time (about a week).

Does this sound right?
yes, but maybe have the poco check their chit first.
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yes, but maybe have the poco check their chit first.
I agree.
Op. What type of electrical consumer are you? Commercial? Industrial?
Duke Energy has come in and monitored for me on a couple occasions at no cost.
Of course we were a big plant and used mucho power.
And yes, they did find an issue on their end that solved the issue on my end.

When you say lights flickering, can you be a bit more precise?
Like when it happens and any other things going on that can cause this.
Is your electrician licensed?
Not saying a license makes him a better electrician, but at least he took a test.
Try calling the power company and see if they will monitor for you.
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I'm a commercial consumer. It's a 6 story building.

It takes a million phone calls for the utility company to come and take a look. Iím dead serious. I have to get my electrician to BEG for them to take a look if something is wrong.

Last time, a few months ago, we were getting surges and my electrician had to beg for weeks for the utility company to take a look. This is while I was getting crap from the owner about why I couldn't solve a simple electrical problem. Turns out that dirty leaves had gotten into the street transformer and this was the cause.

No apology. Nothing.

Electrician is licensed.

It LOOKS like the the lights flicker when the hydro elevator runs but my electrician has shown me that it doesn't flicker when he moves it up and down. But I swear it flickers whenever the elevator starts.

Anyway, the electrician thinks that the cause is from the street. The elevator is on a separate main of course. But I talked to another electrician and he says that it can't be on just a different main but an entirely different "something else" because those hydro elevators take a huge amount of power to start. I forget what he said that "something else" was. (Like I said I know jack s**t about electrical stuff.)




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I agree.
Op. What type of electrical consumer are you? Commercial? Industrial?
Duke Energy has come in and monitored for me on a couple occasions at no cost.
Of course we were a big plant and used mucho power.
And yes, they did find an issue on their end that solved the issue on my end.

When you say lights flickering, can you be a bit more precise?
Like when it happens and any other things going on that can cause this.
Is your electrician licensed?
Not saying a license makes him a better electrician, but at least he took a test.
Try calling the power company and see if they will monitor for you.
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My old heat pump (compressor) pulled so much starting current, the lights would dim for a few seconds. No big deal because I knew exactly what was causing it and there was little I could do about it.


Now, I have a new heat pump and it does not do it anymore.


My issue was a load (compressor) issue that there was no apparent, logical or monetary acceptable fix.
Now had this been evident in a industrial plant and a motor pulled enough starting current to interfere with lighting and other loads we could use an assortment of different starting methods.
This really is not possible for you unless you have a particular motor or other equipment that you know is the culprit. You could then think outside the box to try and find a way to lower the inrush current. This I cannot help you with because you do not know what is causing it.
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I normally don't put much faith in you tube videos, but ran across this guys channel after spending a LOT of time troubleshooting a job.

His videos are made for other electricians, rather than diy's or homeowners. I've found some of his tips and tricks amazing.

Perhaps your electrician can scroll through his videos for a similar symptom.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVM...XMKiMkg/videos


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