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Old 07-29-2012, 10:57 AM   #1
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I have a fuse type service panel in my old house and recently one of the circuits just went dead. I replaced the fuse with a known good replacement but it didn't help. I probed the fuse socket and it wasn't showing any incoming voltage. I checked my work against a different circuit just to make sure I was testing it correctly and it showed 120v.


The problem fuse socket is located in a 4 fuse distribution block and I am assuming that the problem is internal since there is voltage to the other fuse sockets in the block. Don't worry I am going to call a licensed professional and have the panel upgraded to breakers if need be but I would like to know if I'm barking up the right tree before I make the call. Thanks!
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Are your fuseholders been converted to tamper-resistant?

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Yes, they are type S
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Are you using the proper sized fuse in the fuseholder? A 20a S fuse won't work in anything other than a 20a adapter.
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I think so, just to make sure I pulled the 20A out and tried a 15A but it only screwed in a couple turns. The 20A screws in smoothly and bottoms out in the holder.
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Then I'd start looking downstream.
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Leave me alone Gus, I never said I knew anything about electrical cabinets
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Then I'd start looking downstream.

But shouldn't the fuse holder show incoming voltage? I removed the fuse and checked voltage, 0. I then pulled out another fuse and did the same thing and it showed 120v
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That's the only circuit dead?

Is the tab still attached, they can break off and dangle. Never seen it in a fuse, but have seen it in a light socket.

Been so long since I've seen the old fusebox. I had an 8 circuit one in my house for 15 years. Used the circuit breaker fuses.

You need to find out if its the neutral or the hot that's dead. The inside is the hot and the thread is the neutral(/ground). Put one lead of the meter on the thread of the suspect holder and go into another holder and put the probe on the hot (center), see if there is voltage. Try it on a couple if you don't find voltage. Do the same thing for the center of the suspect holder and that way it will determine what is bad, the hot or neutral. I'm guessing the hot.

Other than that....hit it with a hammer. Sometimes it works.
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Thanks Leo,I'll check it out but I'll bring my 10# sledge with just in case
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But shouldn't the fuse holder show incoming voltage? I removed the fuse and checked voltage, 0. I then pulled out another fuse and did the same thing and it showed 120v
I forgot that part.

Then start looking upstream.
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Be gently with the sledge. Part of it still works. You don't want to break the whole thing.
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don't know how common fuseboxes are around you, but I say pull out that POS and install a panel.
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Fuse panels like that are physically very simple. Cut the power to it and tear it apart, and you probably won't even need a meter to find the problem.

Whether it's easily correctable with a hammer & chisel is a different question.

Since you admit to being a bit shy on the sparky side, probably best to just bite the bullet and have a modern panel installed.
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Did you check both legs?
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Did you check both legs?
Heck yeah and they were awesome

They had feet on the bottom and something else on the top

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Yes, yes I did

Thats what I call call "two hot legs"

But It lends no help to jog my memory.

Something is up there and I know it can be energizing. May be the power source.

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