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Old 03-15-2019, 01:29 PM   #21
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Here's a email reply I received from the owner. I'm not implying this is the be all answer.

"Jerry the electrician who kept all my machinery running in my printing business said circuit breakers have a surge factor
of 10% over and under on their rating. As they get older they lose the 10% and trigger at a lesser amounts like 6% or 5% over/under the rating. When that starts happening it makes sense to replace them at a convenient time so it doesn't disrupt production (or additionally break down and fail and cause other problems)."

The box was installed in '72 when the condo was built. The sticker says Sylvania. There wasn't any heavy use of the range (all burners and oven on). I knew which switch to turn off and on as they are all labeled.

It appears that simple age may have been the factor as to the switch being tripped. Why the switch didn't move any after being tripped, I don't know. Maybe age related too or that model of box simply doesn't do that.

Surge factor? Total BS.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:42 PM   #22
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Re: General Question About Circuit Breaker Box


Sometimes difficult to see which breaker is tripped with MANY panels.

I usually run my finger gently down the entire row of breakers (away from the on position) until I feel the "squishy" one for lack of a better term. It takes just the right amount of pressure but that's what works for me for a quick check.
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2 questions:


Would a professional insist on buying a breaker from a specialty store or would one from Home Depot work?

If a guy wanted to paint the circuit breaker panel, but didnít want to bust out the full-sized airless, what is a good tool to use?


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Would a professional insist on buying a breaker from a specialty store or would one from Home Depot work?

If a guy wanted to paint the circuit breaker panel, but didnít want to bust out the full-sized airless, what is a good tool to use?


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don't trust anything from a big box store other than miracle grow....

why the hell would someone paint a breaker panel???????????????
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..........why the hell would someone paint a breaker panel???????????????
So it's the same color as the wall instead of #58 Battleship Gray.
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Would a professional insist on buying a breaker from a specialty store or would one from Home Depot work?

If a guy wanted to paint the circuit breaker panel, but didnít want to bust out the full-sized airless, what is a good tool to use?


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Would a professional insist on buying a breaker from a specialty store or would one from Home Depot work?

If a guy wanted to paint the circuit breaker panel, but didnít want to bust out the full-sized airless, what is a good tool to use?


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In my limited experience I can see why you guys are giving Caslon a hard time. I have no idea why he didn't see it coming.

Maybe the idea that "It is better to give than to receive" has him confused.
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So it's the same color as the wall instead of #58 Battleship Gray.
yea, i know...

just not what flashed through my mind at the time.

previous experiences....
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If you're gonna paint your panel..... at least have the the common sense to remove the cover from the wall and paint it separately. I can't stand lazy painters who do that.

Painting it in situ basically paints it in place, just like anything else (like switch & outlet covers!). Electricians then have to use a utility knife to score around it, which in the end makes it look far worse than just leaving it gray.

And even worse..... putting a screwdriver to the screws REALLY makes it look like chit. Hey... you painted it to look nice, didn't you? Now it'll look like crap thanks to your incompetency.

Jus sayin.....
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Maybe common knowledge to some. Sylvania brand breaker boxes and issues. They mention breaker switches not going half way when tripped. One of those in the pics looks like mine, the Sylvania Zinsco made one (first one on the list of pics there). Googled it just out of curiosity today. Passed it on to the owner. I thought breaker boxes were forever.

Lengthy read, but sort of interesting.

https://inspectapedia.com/electric/G...tification.php

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[QUOTE=B.Johnson;7500679]In my limited experience I can see why you guys are giving Caslon a hard time. I have no idea why he didn't see it coming. [/Quote=B.Johnson;7500679]

See what coming? Sarcastic replies by some? I guess I should have by now, on these forums.

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Any "zinsco" on the panel = UNSAFE AT ANY VOLTAGE,

Some Sylvania/GTE panels are safe, get A pro,

25% plus failure rates of breakers, breakers melting to panel legs...etc...

Generally 40 year old HO CBs are recycled....with a hammer.

Buy a solar powered fire alarm and try not to let the insurance inspector know You knew the panel was an arson kit.

Plus use of AL wire to stove? bad connections/oxidation/galvanic action? Hidden splices?

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