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Old 03-19-2019, 11:04 PM   #81
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Wow, this thread has been going awhile. Here is my take on drywall hand tools.
I started out as a hand finisher with pan and knife. Had all sorts of troubles till an ancient finisher told me about having a knife properly tuned as in how much crown or curve is in the blade. I might have 4 broad knives in each size and all will be tuned for a different purpose.
I use hawk and trowel for various hand textures and the occasional plaster job.
I have Northstar automatic tools so a total hand finish is rare unless the job is small. Where I use the auto tools, I box out two coats and then apply the third coat with pan and knife.
Everything gets finished to level 4 regardless. Learning to finish with minimal to no sanding is were itís at
Yes sir . Ever blade in the arsenal is tuned for its own purpose. Ill leave every tool I own on the job and lock the job up tight .but my bag of blades go home with me.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:28 AM   #82
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I always use trowel.
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Any room that can get wet deserves plaster instead of paper faced Gyp boards, IMHO

Bathrooms, Laundry, kitchens, Spas, Garages, and of course any below grade rooms.

Its unfortunate Building codes and insurance companies don't reward resilient mate rails that can stand some exposure to moisture.

For production numbers knives cover more Square footage of wall with out moving the ladder/bucket.

Trowels of course allow wider blades as they are much closer(less stress) to your wrist joints, thus a longer career as a working journeyman.....
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I use both. Self taught, many years of trial and error, more error....

I hate the pan, bought one in the beginning- 25 yrs ago used a few times, now an organizational item in the garage. Went to a hawk and knives.

What I use more lately is a knife and trowel, trowel like a hawk, but put the material on the wall. (that seems to speed things up for me) then I draw it out with a knife. 4", 6", 12". I find the material goes on thinner with the knife, (probably technique) I also work straight out of the bucket. I raise it on one or two other pails and push it along with me on a caster dolly if not using a baker.

I tend to do repairs, and one to rooms at a time. I'm not a production taper so that's my 2-cents
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IMHO, Drywalling is the retarded cousin of plastering....Thus the tool is only as skilled as its user....

As an aside as an apprentice Brick Mason I bought a few dry wall butt joint trowels @ garage sales thinking they were just damaged/bowed 12-15" concrete trowels.....
Yeah, so I got taught how to trowel concrete by a freakin perfectionist god. Got good at it.

So one day, I get approached to know if I could skim coat a resto room in a historical district home.

Got me my trowel, mixed some plaster and...

Well, it turns out you can't go back and strike down a skip line on plaster like you can on concrete.

So that was that. Plaster career over.

Oh yeah, and plaster gets hard REALLY fast.
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STG, 90 minute mix, COLD materials, cool room, sponge float finish?= Max play time(pot life)..Clean water, spotless mixing containers

small areas, wet edge like painting?/concrete work...kill the cold joints in corners?/ door & window openings?

Drywall is the Adobe of wall coverings, lasts until it gets wet...

Thank God it NEVER gets wet inside of any U.S. Homes......ever

Maybe if you're in a hurricane or flood Zone dry wall isn't a preferred material. or in multi story building with plumbing or a man made roof above your unit?

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