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Old 12-13-2014, 03:48 PM   #1
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Taping Corner Bead?


I was on a job yesterday, doing a restoration issue, drywall repair.

I seen that the corner beads were cracked from top to bottom. Not sure if it was related from the water issue that we are correcting or poor install from the start!

Now for the Experts? Would mesh taping the corner beads help out, or do any good?? You have metal/board/mud/movement?

Just a thought I had?

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If using metal corner bead I use paper tape. Or to save a step I just get paper faced corner bead

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I seen that the corner beads were cracked from top to bottom. Not sure if it was related from the water issue that we are correcting or poor install from the start
They used a crimper ,,,The flange of the shiny 90 edge cracked . This will happen every time a crimp tool is used . It's best to use a fastener every 8'' when using shiny 90s .. Nail on bead have pretty much died out now.
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So what's the recommended method of repair in his situation?
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That metal bead should be outlawed. The GC sees it as a cheaper option and the yard sends it out. I keep a box of paper faced , just incase they pull that one.
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So what's the recommended method of repair in his situation?
I would tear it off or nail it if it is a wood framed wall.
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So what's the recommended method of repair in his situation?
Tape the crack and finish off. Tearing the bead off will be a bit more time
Than it's worth. I ...If I feel like taking the time ! Will take a razor knife and cut paper tape in 1/2 strips .
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I liked the paper faced corner bead a good bit as well, but the other week I tried a vinyl one from HD, that thing was great. Don't think I will ever use the paper faced ones again. Price is not too bad and the corner holds up just as good if not better than the shiny 90.
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The place I was talking about had lots of water, mostly on the floors. But things got pretty humid in there! Took 3 days with 3 dh's, and 16 air movers over 3 floors to dry.
Had a pipe break, and just ran down the steps to the basement.

As for the repairs, going to dig out the loose stuff, paper tape, and cover for now.

Now the hardwood floors another story, 6" speed bumps!
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Nothing wrong with metal bead. Crimping is a problem. Is the wall metal or wood stud? If it's wood I would nail it off then paper tape it. Actually I use a Paslode galvanized staple gun to secure all my beads, but they are too expensive to buy for small repairs. If it is metal stud none of these solutions would work well. I would replace the bead. You could get away with paper faced bead for a while. I wouldn't trust it when dealing with water damage or areas prone to moisture. I would use tite bond construction adhesive on the inside of the bead, not on the wall. And secure it with a regular stapler that they use for insulation until the glue sets. When the glue comes through the holes, wipe it smooth with a piece of paper tape. I also recommend base coating it with Quick set or ez sand products to lock it in place.
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Nothing wrong with metal bead. Crimping is a problem. Is the wall metal or wood stud? If it's wood I would nail it off then paper tape it. Actually I use a Paslode galvanized staple gun to secure all my beads, but they are too expensive to buy for small repairs. If it is metal stud none of these solutions would work well. I would replace the bead. You could get away with paper faced bead for a while. I wouldn't trust it when dealing with water damage or areas prone to moisture. I would use tite bond construction adhesive on the inside of the bead, not on the wall. And secure it with a regular stapler that they use for insulation until the glue sets. When the glue comes through the holes, wipe it smooth with a piece of paper tape. I also recommend base coating it with Quick set or ez sand products to lock it in place.
I would put some nails and tape over it. If you tear it off the old compound will be built up and when you put new bed it will be hard to get the bead out far enough out to get fill in.
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I would put some nails and tape over it. If you tear it off the old compound will be built up and when you put new bed it will be hard to get the bead out far enough out to get fill in.
On metal stud you shouldn't go over it. If the base isn't sturdy you are just pissing in the wind. If the build up is that bad, I would fill it with a hot mix before using glue. Nails on metal stud don't work unless you glue to a solid surface. Also if you nail over it you loosen the compound underneath. You defeat the purpose. The line of the old bead will not be covered by the new bead. So there's a good chance of cracking that will come through.
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On metal stud you shouldn't go over it. If the base isn't sturdy you are just pissing in the wind. If the build up is that bad, I would fill it with a hot mix before using glue. Nails on metal stud don't work unless you glue to a solid surface. Also if you nail over it you loosen the compound underneath. You defeat the purpose. The line of the old bead will not be covered by the new bead. So there's a good chance of cracking that will come through.
I don't see anywhere that he says its on metal stud.
If there is any compound on there at all it will be higher than the bead you put on
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He doesn't say either way. He mentions a basement. That goes either way. Your way works on wood stud. I'm just covering the possibility of metal stud. They are two different stories with two different answers.
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Even so I figured if he doesn't no he can't put nails in metal studs he has more problems than I can help with
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Don't take anything for granted here. He may be a drywall guy but not everyone here is. Someone else may not know. Again. I'm not disagreeing with your post.
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Don't take anything for granted here. He may be a drywall guy but not everyone here is. Someone else may not know. Again. I'm not disagreeing with your post.
I hear you,
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Nothing wrong with metal bead.
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I have not used drywall steel corners in 8 years unless a dy'ers put it on and have to use it. then I do mesh or fiber fuse the sides. I used steel mesh for 7 years and thought it was the best but It could not take a hit...I am sold on trim tex now.
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The way to repair that cracked bead is to screw it all off. At least every 12'' min. First pop any loose mud off the bead if there is any.

Your wasting time with tape on this type of repair. Besides the fact that it would be a nightmare trying to cover it so close to the corner.

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