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Old 01-05-2019, 06:54 PM   #1
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At vaulted ceiling (stomp) to wall juncture.

It's only a foot and a half and the lower wall-side appears tight.

Not sure what caused the lifting "excess". Picture a paper wave lifting down from the surface (stud movement/drying?)

Considering just cutting it out, and going over with glass tape/20 min on ceiling side only?
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Old 01-05-2019, 07:31 PM   #2
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cut out the damaged/buckled tape & replace.

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Make sure they know it could happen again, you're just repairing drywall, not fixing the hang job, framing, water leak, condensation issue, etc.

BTW, from your description, I'd guess some moisture got to the back of the tape joint.
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Make sure they know it could happen again, you're just repairing drywall, not fixing the hang job, framing, water leak, condensation issue, etc.

BTW, from your description, I'd guess some moisture got to the back of the tape joint.
But no water stains.
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It's from movement and expect a callback sooner rather than later if you use mesh tape.
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It's from movement and expect a callback sooner rather than later if you use mesh tape.
I assumed he was talking about fibafuse tape, instead of the "fiberglass" tape.
I never use the fiberglass tape, but I do like the fibafuse tape for repairs.
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I assumed he was talking about fibafuse tape, instead of the "fiberglass" tape.
I never use the fiberglass tape, but I do like the fibafuse tape for repairs.
yes, fibafuse. assuming I can go over top half only. since the corners cut thru easily.
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Was just talking to my drywaller about this and he said they run into rolls of paper that wants a bubble up while taping other times not at all.

We had a long conversation about it and he spoke to one of their reps and showed the quality of the tape was nowhere near what the old tape used to be.

Either way I had them working a job for me and I went and did my own job somewhere else more and it happened to me on few flats. It's a big-time killer because if you leave it and don't take it out down the road it's going to be a problem.

I know there are people that still swear by paper tape but I will only use it in inside corners from now on usually I use mesh on factory joints and soon as I don't I regret it
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Tape doesn't buckle. It's a passive product.
Now, what its stuck onto, and what THAT is stuck onto - those things move.
Just remember you are treating a symptom, not the cause.
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We talked about the decline of products. Problems with light weight plus 3 compound.

I complained about factory ends flashing through....he said a rep told him that due to the light weight boards being prone to damage easier that the manufacturing was making the paper tougher on the edges. Likely a side effect of the process is bulging beyond the taper
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could be as simple as .... long reach for the taper and didn't get a full bedding coat down or it was thin and dried quick before placing the tape. No big deal, like Griz said cut it out and replace it. I'd use paper again. 1) because its the same as existing, less headaches and 2) the right material for a corner.

Cut pull out the lifting tape. You'll have a more realistic idea of why it's lifting. Could be bad nailing to crappy framing, as described above or even some blown out rock that didn't get filled properly. Solve the issue and then lay in the right consistency of general purpose, bed the new tape with a thin knife...fill, feather sand prime and paint viola, a patch
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A pic would have nailed this down pretty quick.
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Well my rockers are doing this longer than me... probably over 30yrs and they believe it's tape quality. Less fuzz to bind plus crap mud. Although they first coat green or hot then finish plus 3. I stopped using blue and purple compound altogether.
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I'm guilty of squeezing out too much mud sometimes. Thats a factor
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I run into this common repair. Paper tape and 20 minute is our method. I always repair both sides for as wide as the repair is needed rather than just trying to patch the ceiling side of the problem. I cut the width of the paper tape down just a fraction so it fits into the recess / void from where the bad tape was removed.

I also usually find i need to add more screws to secure the drywall ceiling in the area of the problem tape as usually i can see movement when pushing up on the ceiling.
We have speculated if drywall in the 80's / early 90's was secured with less nails than is standard today?
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vaulted ceiling to wall junction drywall issue is almost always caused by the framing. hence, the issue will always reappear with the seasonal changes.
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vaulted ceiling to wall junction drywall issue is almost always caused by the framing. hence, the issue will always reappear with the seasonal changes.
Which is partly why I try to use fibafuse, since the mud bonds "thru" the glass fibers rather than layering like with paper. But then again, there's that inside corner to deal with.

Did one couple weeks ago that was caused by water. Two small sections on maybe a twenty foot run. Rest was tight so papered. Plenty of backfill with 20 min.

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vaulted ceiling to wall junction drywall issue is almost always caused by the framing. hence, the issue will always reappear with the seasonal changes.
I strap vaulted ceiling for less reaction transfer. Plus I have never had a problem with straight flex
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I strap vaulted ceiling for less reaction transfer. Plus I have never had a problem with straight flex
I've never had a problem with straightflex either. Or fibafuse or paper actually. Pays to max the treatment, per app.

Tom - if you don't mind my asking - where are you getting your paper?


20 min I use to re-attach vinyl inside corners, too. Never had a call back.

On the buckle; griz and the cutout. For textured ceilings though its only natural to want to minimize spacing.

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