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Old 02-10-2015, 03:05 AM   #1
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Question About Prepping Kitchen Walls.


I am working on a small kitchen gig this week. Filling in a blank area from an old drop cieling, rocking the lid, etc. Basic stuff.

My question is about the existing walls. They had wallpaper in most of the areas, so I will be working to get the rest of the backing of in the next day or so.


The part I don't know what to do with is where they had a splash panel glued to the walls. It is still a bit rubbery. Pulling the rock off isn't really a plan unless it is totally needed.

I had planned to lay on some Gripper primer and then skim the worst areas and sand it down to make the wall as clean and fresh of a surface as possible. Then we are doing a basic knockdown.

Will Gripper work over the old glue? What is the standard procedure in this instance?



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Old 02-10-2015, 03:28 AM   #2
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Re: Question About Prepping Kitchen Walls.


It's probably contact cement. Did you try acetone and a scraper?
I think if you knock the high spots off, clean it and then prime with oil primer, you should be ok to skim it.

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Why isn't replacing that piece an option? You're skim coating anyway...

You're overthinking it IMHO...
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Re: Question About Prepping Kitchen Walls.


The second those boards come down your looking at upgrading wiring and insulation so maybe he doesnt want to go there.....
Plus a permit will then be required, we all know everyone run out to the BD to get one right?
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It is over cardecking, so maybe I will just pull that section. May be easier in the long run.

Yep, as usual, over thinking things. Pulling it is definetly easier than cleaning the goop off of it. It'll turn out better in the end.
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1. scrap and some kills over the grease or cut that spot out.
2.add screws where needed ....like that seam
3. 36'' rolls of fibafuse will fix that so easy
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I'd pull it. Would definitely be less work in the end.
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Re: Question About Prepping Kitchen Walls.


Cut it out and replace. Your going to save time. As mentioned above fiberfuse is a great product. You will spend more time cleaning rocks out of your mud etc. Just because its knockdown don't mean the wall does not have to be done right. Your right about the gripper, it's a great product.
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The second those boards come down your looking at upgrading wiring and insulation so maybe he doesnt want to go there.....
Plus a permit will then be required, we all know everyone run out to the BD to get one right?
I am not aware of any code requirement that says that when you do a patch, which is all this is, you have to permit and upgrade the insulation, wiring, etc...
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Definitely pull it
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I could fuse it all in one hr in a 12X12 room ...2nd coat would take less time and then texture done in one day with one person ...so easy
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Tear out ! Or invest in a magic wand !
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Re: Question About Prepping Kitchen Walls.


Really though VH ... That's just too much . I see tear out !
What you have there is near impossible to get right . It would take more time and material to patch that up then to just tear it out and go fresh .

imo! But I've seen worse !! I'll post pics later this week !!
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Tearing it out would be easier but we would scrape it, then prime it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it,










Then tear it out and do it right. Seems to be the prefferred method for my guys....
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Tearing it out would be easier but we would scrape it, then prime it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it, then skim it,










Then tear it out and do it right. Seems to be the prefferred method for my guys....
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Re: Question About Prepping Kitchen Walls.


I ended up cutting the bad spots out. The area that looks like grease is just a a spot that got hot behind the old wall oven. The rest of it is in pretty decent shape. It was all protected by wallpaper. I have a few bits of paper and backing to get off, then it will be ready to be finished up once the electrician finishes making more holes.
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You need to teach your guys the other way of doing it, Matt. You scrape it and prime it then skim it with about 1/4 of mud then sand it, then sand it, then sand it...

You get the idea.
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You need to teach your guys the other way of doing it, Matt. You scrape it and prime it then skim it with about 1/4 of mud then sand it, then sand it, then sand it...

You get the idea.
if you sand that much you need to put your tools down.
if you skim coat there is just a little scrap I would keep my festool home...no need to sand that much
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I ended up cutting the bad spots out. The area that looks like grease is just a a spot that got hot behind the old wall oven. The rest of it is in pretty decent shape. It was all protected by wallpaper. I have a few bits of paper and backing to get off, then it will be ready to be finished up once the electrician finishes making more holes.
o my god...holes ...new you need to rip it all out
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o my god...holes ...new you need to rip it all out
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