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Old 02-28-2007, 06:07 PM   #41
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I didn't even ask for bids, two subs I've worked with in the past and a third I haven't worked with stopped in at the jobsite and gave me bids. I don't bother having them measure, just give me a price per foot.

The standard finish is tape, two coats, sand, touch-up, texture. We use brocade on the ceiling (this is put on with a hod then knocked down) and a spray/knock-down on the walls. The tract home builders use the spray on ceilings and walls (it's a little quicker) and generally skip the knock-down.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:33 AM   #42
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Here in Maryland we charge by the board. Average around here is $30.00/Board supplied by builder or homeowner. $43.00/Board supplied by drywall contractor. Thats to hang,tape,block,skim,sand, and point up after primer. Anything extra or high ceilings, special board( I.E Du-rock/hardyboard, Quietrock, etc..) is more. I just finished up a custom that was 550 sheets, all 5/8 with 3 rooms that had ceilings over 14'. I supplied labor and materials. Total came to $42,000.00. Took us 2 days to hang it, and 4 days to finish it. Now he wants me to price up 4 rooms to have a stipple finish. Why he wants 16' ceilings to have a stipple finish i'll never know. My job is just to please the customer
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Thanks for info Mud Master...very helpful.......
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I just got out on my own, a friend and I worked for my old man by the hour for years... Well we just quit and started for another guy by the hour, well now were lookin to head over to South Dakota and work for a new contractor by the foot. Since we've never worked by the foot and Im wondering what you think is a fair price to ask? I appreciate your help...
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Thats to hang,tape,block,skim,sand, and point up after primer
Skim as in level 5 ?
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Every proffesional tradesman should aspire to make $100,000.00 per year.
Not including overhead and such. That means if you can complete 400 square feet of board a day, you deserve .60 per square foot.
Or you can let someone else run the show and get .45 per foot.
Or you can sit back and let someone take you for a ride and get .30 per foot. No matter where you live this is what you should aspire to if you are truly a proffesional.
The square foot price is not the subject. The end result is how much drywall can you complete consitantly per day and how much per day do you require to make the yearly income you deserve.
Square foot pricing is for square shoed estimates!
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I just got out on my own, a friend and I worked for my old man by the hour for years... Well we just quit and started for another guy by the hour, well now were lookin to head over to South Dakota and work for a new contractor by the foot. Since we've never worked by the foot and Im wondering what you think is a fair price to ask? I appreciate your help...

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I couldn't tell ya what a good price for your area would be, as every area is different. I know alot of contractors here that sub out to hispanics are getting $7.00-$8.00/board. However when I sub out any work I sub to a buddy of mine and I pay him $10.00-$12.00/board. If you are working for him and not yourself and do not have overhead(workmans comp,insurance,equipment etc..) than I would figure out maybe .95-1.50 ft maybe?? I do residential by board not by feet or sq ft, so I have never had to figure it out. Are you hanging and finishing or just one of the two? As I said I do not know what your market is or what are situation is, so I can't tell ya what to charge. I also am mainly a commercial contractor(metal framing,drywall,finishing,acoustics) and have really gotten away from the residential. I only do high-end custom's and tract homes in bulk, anything else really isn't worth my time as I am way to busy with commercial projects to leave them for anything less. When I get single family spec homes or really anything under 1000-1100 sheets I just sub it out to a buddy of mine. I would find out what your area is getting and figure out what you feel you are worth.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help...Good Luck!!
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Skim as in level 5 ?
Boman,

skim is just a phrase. Every area has different "phrases" they use.

For instance, I say block in reference to the second coat, some people say bed coat, or mud coat.

Some people say "tape,bed,skim" or "tape,block,skim" or "tape,mud,finish" or "tape,mud,paint ready". Every person and area has different phrases they use. I came up being taught "tape,block,skim" so that is what I say when refering to finishing.

As far as what level I finish my walls, usually it is a level 4 or 5 depending on what type of paint will be used(flat,semi gloss,gloss). If it is getting textured it usually is a level 3. And of course on commercial jobs, which is mainly what I do I do alot of fire taping, which is only a level 1, considering it is only to seal around pipes and such above the ceiling. Good place to start a grunt!
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I undestand comletely. As the wife says according of what part of the country you'e in. Glad you clarified 'blocking' too. Didn't want to ask, never heard that in that way.
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here in celebration we charge $25-$35 to hang, and make ready for priming, w/o material and thats a sheet/board. with material you can go from anyway betweem $40- $55, .
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my price i have set is 40 cents sqft , plus 2 bucks a running foot for bullnose , i supply everything but sheetrock and screws , do i need to go higher ? keep in mind small home is around 300 to 400 sheets , so i have alot of footage to work with , and mile upon miles of bullnose . which i put on with air staplers . so far i'm living very comfortable and the jobs turn out nice hand texture finish . crews seem to be happy with the pay . they all drive new trucks so am i doing ok ?? i think so ,, but my concern is i may need to give the boys a raise this year without losing any work . keep in mind i have to compete with scabby drunk and drugged out drywallers ,,, along with cheap fresh from the boarder types . the only good ones left here to do any work are contrators themselfs .
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How about this one I did a 2000 sq ft basement 8 ft walls two bed rms the lid hang tape tex I charge 2.00 a ft and they paid for all the matirails it was 165 8 ft sheets could not get 12 fts through the window lol and they never blinked a eye happy as heck to get the job done so it just depends where you live and how busy everyone is I live in Elko NV and they cant find any one to do any thing here very oppen market just name yor price and show up its yours
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Sl-Drywall, your price isn't much different than what I pay. Some of the guys here must be in markets that pay extrodinarily high. I pay a little less, but I include all material including metal, mud, tape, sanding screens, screws, the works.
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the only thing keeping me going is the price i get from the cornerbead . i want to raise up atleast 10 more cents and still keep my builders , but the other day my supplier told me a guy came in outta state and is only charging 28 cents a sq ft hang tape and texture . that price is back in the dark ages . sad thing is there are buil;ders that have started using him . there is a ton of high end homes i wont touch because there so cheap . im planing to keep what i have and start getting more individual homes. by advertising alot more . so far everything has been word of mouth referals . i dont know how many times i've had myself cut on price , by a new drywaller.
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Stupid question, perhaps, but do you guys charge minimums?

Are these prices for going full bore on large jobs only?

Some of the prices seem fairly low- unless you have a huge job, it just doesn't seem worth it once you factor in the cost to return multiple times, gas to get there, etc.

I also know that these don't factor in material, but damn!
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I think I'm gonna move! Wow some of these prices are way up there! LOL I'm on the texture end of the business, so I'm not up to date on the prices for hanging and taping. Last time I checked they were between .40 and .60 per square foot to hang, tape, texture, and supply everything except the board. I know one finisher that claimed he was making over $100,000 last year @ .12 -.16 per sq. ft. Now granted this guy was the best finisher I have ever seen... But still!!! I get paid about .06 to sand, texture, clean up (Stomp lids, Orange peel walls) and people around here think I'm expensive! Fortunately they also think I'm the best... Shhhh!!! Let them keep thinking that! LOL anyway I know the cost of living is low where I am in comparison to the rest of the US but still... Over a dollar a foot? Tell me that includes the board or is for remodel?

To answer someone else's question: Yes I do charge a minimum. $50 minimum, and $30 and hour. That is on the expensive side but I'm trying to price myself out of hourly patches etc... So I can focus on the Volume. (Hey I have a $20,000 dollar spray rig to pay for!)
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No offense - but at $30/hr, you're a scab! Any professional outfit that brings home $200-$250 per manday, if they do their numbers will soon realize they are working for minimum wage - this is singly owned contractors that are their own worker as well. You won't work every workable day of the year - you have to pay for your medical, liability, comp, commericial plates, etc, truck repairs, equipment purchases, advertizing, gas, and the list goes on and on and on.
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You have to be realistic about the area that you are in.
In my area, eastern NC, it runs between $18 and $24 per board, hung and finished, and cleaned up. Thats for everything but the rock. You can say "I wouldn't get out of bed for that" if you want too, but if your gonna do drywall here, thats the reality of it.
Its a matter of figureing out how to make it work. Some people say you can't make a living at that price, but their wrong, I can anyway. My price is $22 per board, not the highest, but not the lower end either. I use a Mexican hanging crew (because they are the fastest around) they do just as good work as any other crew around, and they are dependable. It seems that a lot of people think Mex crews are butchers that work cheap, but around here, their quality is just as good, and they don't work any cheaper than anybody else.
We don't get any extra for beads (on the bid) its still $22 if its 2 beads or 200 beads. With the exception of bullnose, we get $2 per stick per bullnose, cause they cost $2 per stick more, in other words, they just cover the additional exspense.
I have three guys that work for me by the day, $120 per day, We work a 6 hr day. Again, its the area you live in, they work for me, cause I pay em more than anyone else around here will, or just as much, thats the top rate for labor in THIS area.
The point of all this, you have to find out what the going rate is in your area, then figure out if you can make a living at it. What other folks are getting in other parts of the country, won't really help you in YOUR area.
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