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Old 12-17-2018, 05:18 PM   #1
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No Tape Drywall Patch


This how ya do them?
We used to call them blowout patches
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:30 PM   #2
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Re: No Tape Drywall Patch


Nice.

Doing that, I would score and peel the surrounding paper so it's not doubled up in thickness.

Now, I'm in the habit of screwing some ply backer, filling the hole only (no overlap), and mudding with no tape whatsoever. It seems to work just fine. I clean all board edges with a sharp utility blade.

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That's how I do mine. Will be doing one tomorrow.
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Nice.

Doing that, I would score and peel the surrounding paper so it's not doubled up in thickness.

Now, I'm in the habit of screwing some ply backer, filling the hole only (no overlap), and mudding with no tape whatsoever. It seems to work just fine. I clean all board edges with a sharp utility blade.
It's going to be doubled in thickness if you use tape.
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It's going to be doubled in thickness if you use tape.
If...but I don't.
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Even using lath or plywood backer they tend to suck in the middle. Paint layers I guess.

I do them quite a bit. I will also also flap that extra paper over a factory joint once in a while where it's out for site.
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Up here we call them California patches (no idea why).

They're my favourite way to patch busted doorknob holes, etc. With hot mud it's awesome, mix some 5min up, goop her and good to go.

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yup, california patch...

used all the time, drywallers & tapers are really fast at them...
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Not much work to screw a strip of backing back there.
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Not much work to screw a strip of backing back there.
I think it's less about having to screw on backing and more about no mess, no tape, and then faster/easier to finish over it afterwards.

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I think it's less about having to screw on backing and more about no mess, no tape, and then faster/easier to finish over it afterwards.

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Backing doesn't change any of that, but it does strengthen it against a misplaced impact on the wall.
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If a doorknob punched that hole, odds are it'll happen again. I'm with the install backing crowd.

Tape? I've done it with and without, no callbacks. So... I dunno.
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pretty much on anything but blow & go tract work, we put some sort of 2x blocking at door knob height.
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If a doorknob punched that hole, odds are it'll happen again. I'm with the install backing crowd.

Tape? I've done it with and without, no callbacks. So... I dunno.
Yeah, I don't see tape being needed. It's a floating patch, no shear forces on it as the building moves. I can't see it cracking.
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Re: No Tape Drywall Patch


These metal adhesive patches work pretty well for smaller holes too.
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I donít have a picture, but my kids put doorknob holes in their adjacent rooms.

32Ē doors, one RH, one LH, left a hole in between the rooms that you could see through.

I went with some backing in the holes, figuring it will happen again.


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Backers take time, and you still have screw heads to deal with.

I'm not usually concerned about integrity on a small patch like that.
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Backers take time, and you still have screw heads to deal with.
And a California patch doesn't take time? Screw heads or not, you still need a couple of coats for a nice job.

IMO, it's pretty much a wash between the two as far as application time, but it'll be a more solid repair if you use a backer. Sir Mix's mesh patch runs a close second.
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And a California patch doesn't take time? Screw heads or not, you still need a couple of coats for a nice job.

IMO, it's pretty much a wash between the two as far as application time, but it'll be a more solid repair if you use a backer. Sir Mix's mesh patch runs a close second.
One that size I do in 1 finish coat, no backer, no tape, no screw heads, no flaps on the patch.
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These metal adhesive patches work pretty well for smaller holes too.
i knew a taper that used the metal screen.

he'd roughly clean up the hole, cut his screen, cut a rough drywall plug, then super glue it to the screen.

cut the paper away on the front, sort of to accommodate the thickness of the screen.

goop the back w/hot mud & set the screen in with hot mud.

sounds involved but he was absolutely wicked quick at doing this and the patch was flawless.

2-3 minutes, maybe at a patch and he was done.

california patch guys just shook their heads....

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