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Old 06-29-2012, 02:01 PM   #1
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Doing a water resto and have one joint about 4" in, above an interior walk through, no door just opening, that has cracked out twice in the last week. I am shooting texture today and there was no crack this morning and just as I'm about to shoot that wall I notice a crack.
I used MM to clean out tape and beveled joint when I found it cracked the first time. Used paper tape and all purpose on whole job (about 1200 brd ft) and this and one other spot are the only places giving me trouble. The other is over where a door was that I took out and framed in on an exterior wall.
Not sure what to do. Both areas were paneled before so movement wouldn't have been noticed. It is just a hairline crack for both. Just tell the customer they are screwed it's movement and I can do nothing about it?

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Old 06-29-2012, 02:19 PM   #2
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Either shrinking and swelling in the framing, Or a load problem with the framing Would be my guess

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Either shrinking and swelling in the framing, Or a load problem with the framing Would be my guess
Exactly what I'm thinking which, to me, means I ain't fixin this with some tape and mud.
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Exactly what I'm thinking which, to me, means I ain't fixin this with some tape and mud.
Cut the sheet rock out going two feet past the crack on every side, further if feasible. Use Durabond for the mud, and don't use mesh tape. This will not fix whatevers causing the problem , but it may not crack again. This is assuming the crack was on a joint.
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Go up in the attic and see if the roof is cut in, and if its braced to that point. Lot of "framers " will brace to anything, and create an improper point load. My guess is still be shrinking and swelling.
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Don't have to check, already been up there insulating skylight, there is all kinds of crap going on within 5 feet of the area. Vaulted,recessed (not sure what to call it is one complex ceiling with each side slopping up about 3 feet to a flat ceiling with a recess in the flat part and a ledge for lighting then a skylight in the center) ceiling lands on this wall, attic access about 2 feet away, HAVC air handler in attic about 4 feet away. Hell almost feel through grabbed a brace and the bottom wasn't even nailed off just hanging there.
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Talked to customer before any replies and told him that based on how the crack has behaved both times there is something moving in the wall and to properly attempt to remedy would add a couple more days to end date and he's ok with letting it stay as is and see where it goes from here.
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Depending on when it was built, a lot of houses I've seen in Richardson had the ceiling joists supported by interior walls. On the other hand, there could be termites or cracked slab moving, or...
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Depending on when it was built, a lot of houses I've seen in Richardson had the ceiling joists supported by interior walls. On the other hand, there could be termites or cracked slab moving, or...
It's a custom in Plano built in 80, wahoo no RRP, and it's definitely load bearing.
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Air handlers will cause issues if the platform is not properly built. Take a picture of the area in the attic where the crack is being caused.

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