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Old 10-27-2010, 07:03 PM   #41
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I use a Trowel and Knife.
10" First Coat
12" Second & 1st Coat on my Conner Beads
14" Third
20" for Skim ( and to feather bad but joints)
6" Med flex Knife ( I cut mine down 1' to 1' 1/4)

If I have to sand, (Most times I do not) its just a light quick sand to feather the Edge.

This is the Way I learned by the Frenchman!
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:47 PM   #42
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I like to get into my Work

But My walls and Floor are Clean.
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put her in 4 lo and floor it , works everytime.
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Maybe it is just me but I NEVER use bucket mud. The only time I will use bucket mud is for doing small patch work like door nadle holes or nail holes. I found that it simply is to hard to work with. It doesn't dry quick enough and it never seems to have the same streangth as dry bag mud. Anyone agree with that?

I think the main mistake that you may be making is using bucket mud. You should mix yourown mud from a dry bag and add water to the point that it is pudding like texture. It always helps if you have good hanging prior to adding mud.
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I've heard a few people mention using a wet sponge, but I'm not sure at what stage they mean?

I was intimidated to use bag mud at first because I could never get the mixture right and would always make way too much. One day I decided to use two disposable cups, one to measure water, one to measure mud. Once I got the ratio down the rest of the batches were perfect... now if only I could remember that ratio...
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I tape with the better than ever applicator with a 3 inch flat head
with a helper puttin on the tape behind me.
same with corners but using the inside corner applicator
works great once you get the hang of it.
second coat the flats with a 12 inch and the corners
with a 3 inch flushers













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If I have the time I prefer bucket mud over quikset. Funny , the last two jobs I did was all ready mix. Rare for me, but a nice change of pace.

The nice thing is it is so easy to sponge all ready mix. Minimum sanding.

Sometimes constant mixing of quikset wears me out. I'm not getting any younger.
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I tried a method of taping and mudding about a year ago and it saves mean unimaginable ammount of time. For the first coat of mud and tape try making a more soupy mix of Sheetrock 90 or whatever it is you use. Fill a paint tray or something like it with your soupy mud and run the tape right through it. Apply and smoothe out with no more then one run with your mud knife. With appplying your addition coats get enough mud on the desired areas and smoothe out in one run with your mud knife on about 45 degree angle. Those should take no more then 3 coats total. If it does or you are sanding for what feelas like the rest of your life you are doing something wrong
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To add to that note after every 5 loads of mud or so I wet my knife in a bucket of water. this helps get your mudded joints smoother from the get go and helps save some time on the sanding
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dude you on youtube and watch videos. If you dont want to sub it out, atleast learn it. you dont even have to be very fast at it either.
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I suck at it too, I'l to a first coat on a patch but that's it.

I just can't stop playing with the crap trying to make it perfect....never works.
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I'm not worth a crap at mudding. It's like anything, the more you do it the better the results. The guys that specialize in it do a good job and are fast at it.
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I have done some mudding in my time. At first I sucked. I cut my teeth on fire taping in a attic space on a commercial job. By the end of the job I got pretty good at it then decided I could put it on my resume. lol

Below is one of my early forays into mudding. I have gotten better.

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3. Leave it alone, stop messing with it on the first and second coat
7. Filling more later is better then sanding off too much
Good advice. Sanding is where the bulk of time is wasted, but you can also waste time "playing" or "messing" with it.

Make sure all edges are feathered against the drywall by using pressure on the outer edge of the knife blade, but not too much of an "arced" angle between the outer and the inner edge, or you'll get "sharp" ridges. Adding water to the compound to thin it helps with this. "Knock" your ridges down with the knife when its dry to prevent buildup in subsequent coats, but you shouldn't be spending a lot time knocking down ridges, either, even if you don't sand.

If you are going to err, err on the side of caution, and don't put too much on when you put anything on, no matter what coat -- it's much easier to put more on than to sand it off. Less is more.

Just make sure your bed is wet enough to make the tape stay stuck to the drywall. If you don't build on a good foundation, you might have to redo it after it's dry, and that is what really sucks.

There are some more tricks that good drywallers use, so taping and mudding is as much art as it is science. Watching a good drywaller do their thing is like watching a fine musician in concert....

....Let us know how you're doing, Aaron.
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adding a bit of water really saves time... makes it easier to spread
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It's kinda like caulking, sometimes you got to know when to just leave it the h*** alone!
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i use dish soap and i also add durabond 90 to it, heats it up for speed imo,

first tape take a empty bucket , cut two slots wide enough for the tape to pass thru, put your tape in it and voila you have a banjo , it works


thin coats and dont play too long, i dont sand between coats maybe just knock down ridges and boogers, last coat should be wide as you can,

its never flat its an illusion, well maybe some guys can get it flat haha i make it look right
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I'm not an expert at it by any means, but i've done enough of it to get a lot better at it than I was.

One thing that helped me was paying attention to the angle I held the blade at to be wall, if that makes sense.

If I hold it towards 90 degrees to the wall, i can get a real thin coat, more desirable.

If I hold it at a close angle to the wall (or ceiling) I find it goes on a lot thicker (what I always did before, and would spend a lot of time sanding between coats), messy...
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mudding is definately a practiced art..more you do it the better you are at it
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mudding is definately a practiced art..more you do it the better you are at it
Thats for sure, i pretty much had to teach myself, but a few months ago i worked a guy who knew what he was doing. Taught me alot, now im almost a expert! nooooot.

I guess the only i got going is that i refuse to spray texture with a crappy hopper and will always use my spray rig, even for some of the smallest repairs. unless it is a spot. I have no hangups about unrolling my hose just to ensure the texture is flawless. I get jobs like that just because the homeowners know you can't ever match stuff with hoppers.

I am sure i will get replies saying "i am great with hoppers" blah blah blah, but you can never truley match spray rig work. I don't know how many contractors and homeowners have told me that.

I agree........

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