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Old 12-06-2014, 07:09 PM   #21
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Our drywall guys won't scrap out. Good on ya
They shouldn't !! It's not there job ! It's the G/Cs job !


But some Dumb D/C MOFO 20 Years ago started scrapping out his houses ..now were all expected to do It.

It's the General Contractors job to keep the job site clean ! But those days are gone .
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They shouldn't !! It's not there job ! It's the G/Cs job !





But some Dumb D/C MOFO 20 Years ago started scrapping out his houses ..now were all expected to do It.



It's the General Contractors job to keep the job site clean ! But those days are gone .

I get that I guess. It's usually no big deal for us, we just send a laborer over.
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But outta curiosity, what's the reason? If the other trades have to clean up. I'm just asking cause I don't know.
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They shouldn't !! It's not there job ! It's the G/Cs job !


But some Dumb D/C MOFO 20 Years ago started scrapping out his houses ..now were all expected to do It.

It's the General Contractors job to keep the job site clean ! But those days are gone .
It was 25 years ago and I worked for him .

We loaded his trailer and 4x4 van with scrap. He dumped it the woods up north. He owned property. DNR no beuno with it, but have another beer and all is well
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But outta curiosity, what's the reason? If the other trades have to clean up. I'm just asking cause I don't know.
A G/C has many jobs! One Is to Keep the job site clean ! It's just a general rule ! At'least it use to be ! But nowadays Subs are treated like Bitches ! IMO! I'm not saying It's like this Nation wide ..But It Is!!!
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A G/C has many jobs! One Is to Keep the job site clean ! It's just a general rule ! At'least it use to be ! But nowadays Subs are treated like Bitches ! IMO! I'm not saying It's like this Nation wide ..But It Is!!!

I got ya. Well it's alive and well here. We take care of it
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They shouldn't !! It's not there job ! It's the G/Cs job !


But some Dumb D/C MOFO 20 Years ago started scrapping out his houses ..now were all expected to do It.

It's the General Contractors job to keep the job site clean ! But those days are gone .
I think everyone should be responsible for cleaning up their own mess but hey that's just me . It is the GC job to make sure contractors clean up their mess when they are done . If they don`t hire someone who will .
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:22 PM   #28
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I think everyone should be responsible for cleaning up their own mess but hey that's just me . It is the GC job to make sure contractors clean up their mess when they are done . If they don`t hire someone who will .
Are you paying your subs for labor /materials/clean up ? And debris removal ?
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They shouldn't !! It's not there job ! It's the G/Cs job !


But some Dumb D/C MOFO 20 Years ago started scrapping out his houses ..now were all expected to do It.

It's the General Contractors job to keep the job site clean ! But those days are gone .
Huh? Since when is it someone else's job to clean up your mess? I don't ever expect a spotless site, but all my subs broom clean and dispose of their debris in the dumpster I provide. I do sweep constantly as well as run shop vacs constantly, but to say its the GC's job to clean everyone's mess is wrong...imho.

If I hire a new sub, they are told this. I have never had one tell me its my job.
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"Clean up or pay up." We do not have this on our sites but have seen this on many sites. I believe in it.

We ask our subs to at least put it in a pile and sweep so all we have to do is come in and take away a pile. If our dump truck is on site, they (subs) are expected to put it there.

When I was a drywall sub I used to go as far as mopping the floors (concrete).
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Are you paying your subs for labor /materials/clean up ? And debris removal ?
I,m not talking about removal , I am talking about cleaning up your mess and putting it in a pile just like the framers do . Contractors shouldn`t have to trip over each others mess . It is all part of being professional .
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They shouldn't !! It's not there job ! It's the G/Cs job !


But some Dumb D/C MOFO 20 Years ago started scrapping out his houses ..now were all expected to do It.

It's the General Contractors job to keep the job site clean ! But those days are gone .
Oh, BS....in the 70's and on every job I have ever seen the drywall guys scrapped the job. Tapers scrape the floor also. All subs were & are expected to clean up their mess.

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A G/C has many jobs! One Is to Keep the job site clean ! It's just a general rule ! At'least it use to be ! But nowadays Subs are treated like Bitches ! IMO! I'm not saying It's like this Nation wide ..But It Is!!!
I, nor any other Contractor I know treat each other or subs like bitches. Now if you want to have an attitude while on the job stand by to be stood on...
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Huh? Since when is it someone else's job to clean up your mess? I don't ever expect a spotless site, but all my subs broom clean and dispose of their debris in the dumpster I provide. I do sweep constantly as well as run shop vacs constantly, but to say its the GC's job to clean everyone's mess is wrong...imho.

If I hire a new sub, they are told this. I have never had one tell me its my job.
I'ts your job! To keep a clean job site!!! I understand that It's not this way anymore . I get that.. I deal with It! But I still say It's the G/Cs job to clean up behind a sub before the next one walks in ..
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I'ts your job! To keep a clean job site!!! I understand that It's not this way anymore . I get that.. I deal with It! But I still say It's the G/Cs job to clean up behind a sub before the next one walks in ..
So you leave all you scrap and trash in the house and expect the GC to throw it in the trash for you?

I treat my subs well. I also work side by side with some of them. I have some of the same subs I had 10 years ago...my drywaller being one of them. He has always swept up, thrown away his trash, ran a scraper on the floor, etc.

My electrician is by far the messiest sub, but even he sweeps up his mess....just like I clean up my mess.
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I'ts your job! To keep a clean job site!!! I understand that It's not this way anymore . I get that.. I deal with It! But I still say It's the G/Cs job to clean up behind a sub before the next one walks in ..
Nope.

Sorry.

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Everyone cleans up their own mess. One of my guys or myself will change the ram board and paper when it is trashed, do the fine tune cleaning, ect.... Trash and debris outside is cleaned up everyday, fine tuned every Friday. End of the job low man gets to vacuum up the little debris in the yard and fine grade the site.
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Oh, BS....in the 70's and on every job I have ever seen the drywall guys scrapped the job. Tapers scrape the floor also. All subs were & are expected to clean up their mess.



I, nor any other Contractor I know treat each other or subs like bitches. Now if you want to have an attitude while on the job stand by to be stood on...
I guess I was brought up around General Contractors that had a different mindset .. I've never worked for a Janitor !
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Funny how a thread can goes sideways in a hurry...lol!
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Funny how a thread can goes sideways in a hurry...lol!

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I guess I was brought up around General Contractors that had a different mindset .. I've never worked for a Janitor !
I didn't realize that your job was so special that you don't have to clean up after yourself , That would be like framers leaving lumber laying around with nails sticking out . Oh well the GC will take care of it .

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