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Old 07-12-2014, 09:26 AM   #61
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That's what I remember hearing. The key word in your post was "right". haha
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Old 08-08-2014, 04:51 PM   #62
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Sorry,
U channel.

I've always known it as CRC.


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We call it "black iron" here. That or CRC if we are feeling fancy.

Im a commercial guy so 99.9% of the thousands of sheets I have hung have been stand ups. As explained earlier its a firecode thing, it is also a hell of a lot faster to hang standups. Anyone who says different hasnt seen a production commercial crew in action.

Stand ups are weaker though, however with commercial slabs and expansion joints you seldom see the shifts and cracked slabs you see in shacks.
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CRC= cold rolled channel. 16 ga black iron


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So on a 92" high basement ceiling. Would it be 48 to the top and the 44 to the bottom horizontal. Or is it the other way. So the indents are away from the ceiling joint on the 44 trim. I'm stuck with 8's. Can't get anything longer down the stairs.
Just hanging board for the taper.
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So on a 92" high basement ceiling. Would it be 48 to the top and the 44 to the bottom horizontal. Or is it the other way. So the indents are away from the ceiling joint on the 44 trim. I'm stuck with 8's. Can't get anything longer down the stairs.
Just hanging board for the taper.
stand up 92" boards all the way around. its faster, easier to hang, and easier to tape.
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trust me when i say im no drywaller....ask the guy that tried to train me to tape and finish ....but he did teach me HIS way of hanging....hang it horizontal w/end joints staggard for the same reason you dont break it along a door or window...it WILL crack....i lived in a house that had a floor to ceiling crack EVERY 4'....on EVERY wall.....just my .02.....and like said....you cant fix mis-crowned studs.....just drive around south st louis county and jefferson county and look at the new construction with vinyl siding...pitiful to say the least....
That's because there's only about a dozen good Carpenters left in StL....the rest are all retired.......you want quality in this town you gotta call those one trick ponies from the CDC
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That's because there's only about a dozen good Carpenters left in StL....the rest are all retired.......you want quality in this town you gotta call those one trick ponies from the CDC
I believe on wood you should lay down, although on metal your board should be stood up. Your commercial interior system relies on the steel stud on your joint to obtain your fire rating. It honestly should not be a debate.
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That's because there's only about a dozen good Carpenters left in StL....the rest are all retired.......you want quality in this town you gotta call those one trick ponies from the CDC
I believe on wood you should lay down, although on metal your board should be stood up. Your commercial interior system relies on the steel stud on your joint to obtain your fire rating. It honestly should not be a debate.
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Small jobs............I stand up when I can...........Faster finishing for me. Inside and outside corners much easier,cleaner.

Whole house, big jobs...........Standard horizontal.


I probably already said that a few pages back.
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You guys that hang vertical are certainly working with better framers than I am. If that stud is off by a 1/4" sure doesn't leave much to screw to on one side. Anymore than that, then what, add nailers ?
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You guys that hang vertical are certainly working with better framers than I am. If that stud is off by a 1/4" sure doesn't leave much to screw to on one side. Anymore than that, then what, add nailers ?
I hang stand ups in commercial work. I also frame my own jobs being a comm carpenter. And I have tricks if the occasional stud is off a hair...
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And I have sledgehammers if the occasional stud is off a hair...
That how I read it
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That how I read it
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That how I read it
I'm not a hack I usually hang in metal pull the pan head and move the stud over. If it is one sided you can take a piece of track and lap it over the stud to give you metal to hit. On wood I always lay my sheets down
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I'm not a hack I usually hang in metal pull the pan head and move the stud over. If it is one sided you can take a piece of track and lap it over the stud to give you metal to hit. On wood I always lay my sheets down
No offense intended, wood framing is frequently "adjusted" with framing hammers or sledgehammers if needed, even during framing. Maybe some consider that hackery, I don't.

Metal is a whole different deal
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No offense intended, wood framing is frequently "adjusted" with framing hammers or sledgehammers if needed, even during framing. Maybe some consider that hackery, I don't. Metal is a whole different deal
I hear ya, I usually grab a stick or two of track when I hang houses. Really comes in handy if you didn't frame, and an inexperienced crew did
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I hear ya, I usually grab a stick or two of track when I hang houses. Really comes in handy if you didn't frame, and an inexperienced crew did

same here, i always keep some shiny 90 in my garage, easy to store and easy to use when backing is needed.
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same here, i always keep some shiny 90 in my garage, easy to store and easy to use when backing is needed.
+2 I like it for inside corners, you don't have to have a saw or long screws or nails and works great in tight spots
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+2 I like it for inside corners, you don't have to have a saw or long screws or nails and works great in tight spots
i call it, the framing band aid. haaaaa

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