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Old 12-25-2011, 11:58 PM   #61
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:00 AM   #62
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Whew! Look what I missed out on! Too much egg nog!

Hey Naperville boys, I started out glueing and nailing in your neighborhood waaaaay back in 1973.

Moved to florida in 79 and found these shiney flimsey things they called metal studs.

So for 32 yrs I,ve been doing sub-standard work. No,I don't think so.

We screw everything.....Even on wood.....No glue......No problems....Capeesh.

Where's Sir Mixalot when you need him.
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I still stick by gluing is better. I respect those that have been doing it for years and years, but it doesn't mean that we are not correct in saying that gluing is better. While screws don't eliminate pops they help reduce them greatly. Glue is just an added step to help reduce them even more. It also helps in sound deadening, which all homes benefit.

This will be my last post on the subject seeing that everyone knows where I stand and it's just going in circles. I made the statement that it was lazy not to, and started the angry debate. I do apologize for the comment. It was inflammatory and out of line.
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How does it deaden the sound? The best sound deadening technically involves breaking the physical path that sound travels in. IE, using 2x6 plates with 2x4 studs staggered and insulation woven in-between is one way.

Adding glue to the rock just seems to me that it would make such a small difference it would be insignificant.
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Old 12-26-2011, 06:59 PM   #66
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glue between sheets stiffens the boards considerably... That cuts down on the vibration transmission.


It's not ideal however... A damping compound between sheets is a smarter idea.

Gluing a single layer of sheetrock to framing wont help sound deadening at all.

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I'm just a few miles on the cold side of Naperville and have never seen drywall being glued, or found it glued on a demo. Weird.
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Uh, not you TNT, just the messing with glue while hanging, being weird.

How do the hangers keep from smearing it all over the face of the rock?
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How do the hangers keep from smearing it all over the face of the rock?
You put the glue on the studs & joists.
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non gluing slackers
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They probably glue the cabinets to the walls also. It makes it quieter when the doors get slammed as you cuss out the guys who glued the sheetrock up while doing some drywall demo.
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Really.....?
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We do alot of remodels and I'm always telling the guys helping tear out the drywall they should be glad it was'nt all glued on! Whew, just thinking about it wears me out.

And for the record, in my opinion, nail/glue or screws are both good systems.
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I don't use glue, as I hate tearing out stuff that was glued and just from what I have seen personally the nail pops/cracks didn't seem any better or worse, altho, I was not taking the time to study the drywall before I tore it out.
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Whew! Look what I missed out on! Too much egg nog!

Hey Naperville boys, I started out glueing and nailing in your neighborhood waaaaay back in 1973.

Moved to florida in 79 and found these shiney flimsey things they called metal studs.

So for 32 yrs I,ve been doing sub-standard work. No,I don't think so.

We screw everything.....Even on wood.....No glue......No problems....Capeesh.

Where's Sir Mixalot when you need him.
If I dare read between the lines, gluing drywall started way back when we were still nailing drywall. Seems to me the screwing makes the gluing redundant.

I still want to know how hangers don't smear glue all over the face of the rock.
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The only time i have ever glued drywall was to stiffen up a kneewall both framed in metal or wood.

Maybe we should start gluing the doorknobs to the door, the hinges to the jamb or the wall angle to the wall.

I have to go glue the fan to the ceiling
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Everone can we agree to just disagree.
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Wow hot thread....everyone glues new construction to reduce number of fasteners and float walls while maintaining a strong bond. Cheap insurance upgrade. I never use it on old work nor do I see anyone do it. Im sure its a nightmare to remove.
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I have never seen glued drywall. I do like the idea, and consider it better building practice.
I would just like to know where we are going to draw the line in the sand?
It would be nice in theory to glue nearly everything during the construction process, however IMO its not realistic.
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I am going to want to shoot every present day contractor in 20 years when I am trying to reno a house and they thought it would be a good idea to PL Premium everything..... Everything and anything a human will ever build will always need service, and to produce an object in a fashion that only makes service harder or impossible is frustrating and more expensive in both the initial costs and future service costs.

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