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Preacher17 10-27-2008 10:02 PM

my boarder gets .50 bf. tapers varey from .30-.50 bf or around $20 hour

mud dog 10-28-2008 07:10 PM

AARC and Preacher- are your tapers paying for the mud/bead/tape or do you and how many guys are in your taping crews?

d's 10-28-2008 09:59 PM

Geez Preacher can I come board for you! At .50/bf doing 2500bf per day works out to $1250 a day. i could pay a skilled labourer $250 and keep $1000 for myself. Sounds alot better than boarding for AARC:w00t:

I'm thinking the difference is that Preacher is paying a subcontractor to handle all aspect of the job like measuring and ordering materials, providing own tools, insurance, etc... hence the higher rate.

AARC probably has his guys on his crew and is managing the whole job himself and giving his guys a sqf price instead of an hourly to keep them productive.

I'm moving in that direction as well. Even though my boarding subs get .35-.45 and save me alot of headaches I'm thinking it would be more profitable to train up my own guys and pay them an hourly or lower sqf rate. They'd have to do alot more than 500bf/day though!

D'S

AARC Drywall 10-28-2008 10:36 PM

we pay for the materials, and usally there is only one guy on a taping outfit...not sure why, but they dont want to train anyone...
thus the shortage.

I have my own guys on crews, that way i can manage the whole thing....d's has it about right...i can point them in the direcetion i want them to go....leave them to complete the job..help out if i want, visit other contractors, scare up more work..babysit the tapers, and make sure things are on schedual...and if i get some spare time take on a small job for myself...(insurance work $$$$)

J

Preacher17 10-28-2008 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mud dog (Post 522752)
AARC and Preacher- are your tapers paying for the mud/bead/tape or do you and how many guys are in your taping crews?

nope its supplied along with scafoling

Quote:

Originally Posted by d's (Post 522891)
Geez Preacher can I come board for you! At .50/bf doing 2500bf per day works out to $1250 a day. i could pay a skilled labourer $250 and keep $1000 for myself. Sounds alot better than boarding for AARC:w00t:

I'm thinking the difference is that Preacher is paying a subcontractor to handle all aspect of the job like measuring and ordering materials, providing own tools, insurance, etc... hence the higher rate.


AARC probably has his guys on his crew and is managing the whole job himself and giving his guys a sqf price instead of an hourly to keep them productive.

I'm moving in that direction as well. Even though my boarding subs get .35-.45 and save me alot of headaches I'm thinking it would be more profitable to train up my own guys and pay them an hourly or lower sqf rate. They'd have to do alot more than 500bf/day though!

D'S

its a subcontractor price but sometimes I do the measureing and ordering other times he does it... Its way easier to just pay One guy then to pay a whole crew. Save on Tax.....

madrywall 11-23-2008 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AARC Drywall (Post 522076)
my crews for boarding average 2500 to 3000 per day...at $.15 per bf...the main guy pays his helper...out of that .15 per bf.
My taping crews average about 200 to 2500 bf day on average. which means a 10000 bf house in approx 5 days, keeping in mind nothing to fancy, maybe a vault...but thats a bout it. The tapers are making approx...250 a day...at 5 days...some make more, but that is an average.

J

What do you consider cheap? 1/2 of the cost of Materials?

Mike

madrywall 11-23-2008 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewtlocke (Post 20281)
...at 1800 sqf/day/man, paid at a rate of $0.25/sqf, I could expect to pay someone $450/8-hour day? That's $56.25/hour. That doesn't seem correct. 1800 sqf/day is 45 sheets of 4x10 board/day, which is 5.625 sheets/hour, which means that I'm paying $10/sheet to hang. Well, $10/4x10 sheet doesn't sound that bad, but $56.25/hour sounds way too high!

...okay, using the same method, at 500 sqf/day/man, paid at a rate of $0.25/sqf, I could expect to pay someone $125/8-hour day. That's $15.63/hour. That seems right. 500 sqf/day is 12.5 sheets of 4x10 board/day, which is 1.5 sheets per hour, which means I'm still paying $10/4x10 sheet to hang. 1.5 sheets/hour seems pretty dang slow. I definitely don't want to pay someone $15-$16/hour to hang 1-2 sheets. What the heck are they doing with their time? I think that $/sqf rate has to come down some.

Let's use a lower $/sqf rate, like $0.15/sqf. 500 sqf/day/man, paid at a rate of $0.15/sqf, I could expect to pay someone $75/8-hour day. That's $9.38/hour. That seems a little too low, but if one guy hangs even three sheets per hour, their hourly rate shoots up to $18/hour. 3 sheets/hour is 24 sheets/day (of 4x10), which is 960 sqf/day, which seems reasonable.

So, at $0.15 - $0.20/sqf, it really is up to the installer to decide how much money they want to make. The faster they install (with the least rework), the quicker the job gets done, the more jobs the company can do, the more money everyone makes. I see. Pretty good formula. :Thumbs:

Does this make sense to the more experienced guys out there? Is $0.15 - $0.20/sqf below industry averages? I'm just starting out here, so any help is much obliged.

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Lionheart27 11-26-2008 08:49 PM

Drywall Hanging
 
Hey

I don't want to cause any bumps but where do you guys get off saying any work other than general labour demo should be $10/hr. Thats a travesty iin this business. An assistant maybe on a small job. I myself being a contractor would not pay any less than $15/hr to a labourer, nor a drywall hanger. If your talking .10-.15 a square than thats 4 (4x8) sheets/hr in my book. 8 for two men

That translates to 2048 sq ft in an 8 hr day. You have to consider duct work, beads(outside corners), electrical including pot lights. Plus you want the job done right not corner or butt joints or any other problems.

Professional work gets professional results and more work from clients.

Isn't always nice to be shimming and reworking the framing for drywall installation. Please keep in mind folks sometimes we do this out of courtesey(sp) just to get the job done.

Older homes are always going to be a retro fit to make it work. Plaster walls are old school and cover alot of mistakes. Know your platform before you get into a job. Most likely older homes walls will never be straight do to settling of foundation.

Sorry to drift off topic a bit but alot of people don't think throught the project before taking it on.

24" seems to be the standard before they brought in the 2x6 legislation for rafters. Yes. I did a project where the original rafters are 2x4 and are not standard anymore.

My Rant

cheers

duker 07-04-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dman3434 (Post 16800)
Walldoc,

So you would estimate 1800 sq ft per day per man? Basically given 1800 sq ft or 45 Sheets of the 10 x 4 per man per day, correct?

Holy you ppl must be getting old, or something, 1800 sq ft a day for one man he's not gonna make no money, iv been tapin for 8 yrs now just by my self i can do up to 8500 sq ft a day, with two ppl knowing what thier doing they should be able to do double that.


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