Call Back Question? - Drywall - Contractor Talk

Call Back Question?

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-03-2009, 01:58 AM   #1
 
5 Star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 25

Call Back Question?


I got a call back on a garage I did but was unable to take pictures so I will describe it the best I can.

Problem: cracks at joints,some not all ceiling walls and corners,but no butt joints. 30x30 with 11' walls with living space above. At first I thought the floor joists above were not strong enough but then I found cracks in walls,corners also? I have had bad mud before but all of these cracks are down the middle of the tape not at all on the sides (tape seperation) could it still be bad mud? It was green lid first and second and then topping for the third.

To fix I thought about mesh tape with hot mud maybe durabond?

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

LS
5 Star is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 04-03-2009, 02:36 AM   #2
Drywall stopper
 
Kiwiman's Avatar
 
Trade: drywall stopper
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 85
Rewards Points: 75

Re: Call Back Question?


Could be any number of things, check if they've had a flood or anything that would cause moisture/humidity problems, any screws popping? if it's a new building maybe the concrete floor hasn't dried enough before the garage was closed in. I've had good success with sheetrock mesh and the equivilant of your durabond for crack repairs (papertape corners). First establish whats caused the problem, then don't repair it until the building has settled down.

At the end of the day it's never ever ever ever the plasterers fault.

Advertisement

__________________
How much mud could a mud chucker chuck if a mud chucker could chuck mud.
Kiwiman is offline  
Old 04-03-2009, 05:31 AM   #3
Pro
 
Big Shoe's Avatar
 
Trade: Carpentry,drywall,trim. Part time painter.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,475
Rewards Points: 2,062

Re: Call Back Question?


Did you prefill gaps? Did you let the tape dry before second coat? Many different things can cause that.

Take a razor knife and cut and peel all loose tape away, then mesh flats,paper angles. Good luck.
Big Shoe is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-03-2009, 05:34 AM   #4
Pro
 
Frankawitz's Avatar
 
Trade: Plastering, Drywall, Painting, Woodworking, Stucco
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Eastern Michigan outside of Detroit.
Posts: 1,768
Rewards Points: 1,196

Re: Call Back Question?


I would have used Durabond 90 as my bed coat with paper tape, corners and flats, then I would of second coat with Durabond then finished with topping.
This way you know you tape is well imbedded in the mud. was the board tight in the corners? if you had to fill and you used ready mix it would have cracked, also what about the night time temps? did this garage have heat?



www.frankawitz.net
Frankawitz is offline  
Old 04-03-2009, 06:56 AM   #5
Butt Expert
 
Brocktologist's Avatar
 
Trade: Drywall
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 278
Rewards Points: 250

Re: Call Back Question?


With the ever changing environment and movement of garages we can do everything correct and still have it crack. With that in mind why would you warranty a garage?
Brocktologist is offline  
Old 04-03-2009, 08:31 AM   #6
Profit is not dirty.
 
AARC Drywall's Avatar
 
Trade: Residential Drywall and Taping
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Prince George BC Canada
Posts: 487
Rewards Points: 268

Re: Call Back Question?


sounds like the building is has shifted or settled..
__________________
Profit is NOT a dirty word....Cheap is....
AARC Drywall is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to AARC Drywall For This Useful Post:
Darwin (04-14-2009)
Old 04-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #7
 
5 Star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 25

Re: Call Back Question?


I should mention I did not hang it so some things I do not know. Its not a warrenty job I just want to help the guy out becasue it will lead to alot more work and he is a friend.. It is heated (floor heat) moisture is not a problem. the tape was well bedded, no prefill the hang job was good.

A 30 x 30 Garage with 11' walls attached to house on one wall with living space above (30' span floor) and a 5/12 pitch roof all lends me to belive it is moving. The wind load alone the way the house sits is a lot, add to it living space above. The walls are 2x6 but I never did see the frame job but if the joists are flexing that means the walls are also. I should also mention the cracks in the cieling are 15 to 20 feet long while the walls are shorter which tells me movment.

I'm going to dig out, patch with Durabond/mesh and then do a light texture to hide extra mud and unsandable durabond.

Thanks guys
LS
5 Star is offline  
Old 04-13-2009, 10:47 PM   #8
Member
 
jmr's Avatar
 
Trade: drywall contractor
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: south metro, mn.
Posts: 48
Rewards Points: 25

Re: Call Back Question?


what temp are you working in? if you taped in cold weather below 30 tape cracks or falls. is his garage climate controlled? if its northern climate i almost never guarantee any finish unless garage is heated.
jmr is offline  
Old 04-14-2009, 07:07 AM   #9
Pro
 
Frankawitz's Avatar
 
Trade: Plastering, Drywall, Painting, Woodworking, Stucco
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Eastern Michigan outside of Detroit.
Posts: 1,768
Rewards Points: 1,196

Re: Call Back Question?


You mentioned mesh tape, are all the joints done that way? if they are that is the problem I would have used paper tape with Durabond 90, I would have filled all gaps in the corners and between the boards with 90, then pulled it all with 90. then finish them off with topping.



www.frankawitz.net
Frankawitz is offline  
Old 04-14-2009, 08:34 AM   #10
strat hd
 
strathd's Avatar
 
Trade: framing contractor , remodeler , GC occasionally
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 1,695
Rewards Points: 1,000

Re: Call Back Question?


Is this on a slab or foundation ? If on a foundation how deep was the footer ? I won't build a garage on a slab as you are allways going to have settling and shifting.
strathd is offline  
Old 04-14-2009, 10:28 AM   #11
 
5 Star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 25

Re: Call Back Question?


Northern climate, North Dakota, weather was 45 plus one year ago. In floor/radiant heat, floor has 4' footers as it is an attached garage. Used paper tape with green lid for bedding, next time I will use durabond,

Thanks
LS

Advertisement


Last edited by 5 Star; 04-14-2009 at 10:31 AM.
5 Star is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do they really expect me to call back? Leo G General Discussion 39 02-12-2009 05:09 PM
Serious question for the GC's MMC73 Business 33 12-25-2008 04:09 PM
No Thanksgiving would be complete without... ChainsawCharlie Off Topic (Non Trade) 2 11-27-2008 06:35 PM
Answer a Question with a Question Nathan Off Topic (Non Trade) 151 10-07-2008 02:07 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?