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Old 07-14-2019, 06:00 PM   #21
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Try Fiberfuse instead of paper.
I was taught to use paper tape and while there is a bit more of a learning curve to it i think it is much better in the end. Its far stronger and allows for thinner butt joints than mesh tape. I think mesh is kinda lazy and it is such a PITA for inside seams. The fact that paper tape costs about 5x less than mesh tape doesnt hurt either. The only thing i even use mesh for on drywall is during backfill of larger holes or bad gaps that are sunken in. And then i will put paper tape on top of it. Nothing is more annoying than having a big hump in a butt joint on a patch and either sanding too much and exposing the mesh tape, or having to float both sides out 24" just to smooth out the patch.

Once i worked with paper tape for a little while and learned the little tricks for how to get it smooth i never looked back. By far the majority of the mesh tape i use now is for hardie backer seams with red guard, not drywall mud.

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Old 07-14-2019, 06:13 PM   #22
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Fibafuse (not fiberfuse) is essentially woven fiberglass. Nothing like mesh tape.

If you haven't tried it, you should. Pretty much all the advantages of paper without any bubble worries. Admittedly, paper is still better on inside corners.
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There are quite a number of ways to do this. I just did 2 small patches with fibafuze tape and durabond. No sanding, no nothing. If I was worried about strength I would have put some acrylic fortifier in the mix.

Or you could follow the one guy who mixes bucket mud with plaster to get a setting mix.
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Also keep in mind, bagged setting compound can have things separate out some in the bag so you can have some fast and some slow setting small batches.
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Fibafuse (not fiberfuse) is essentially woven fiberglass. Nothing like mesh tape.

If you haven't tried it, you should. Pretty much all the advantages of paper without any bubble worries. Admittedly, paper is still better on inside corners.
Sorry, i may have used the term "mesh tape" a bit loosely. But, yes, i am very familiar with the fibafuse tape (white fine fiberglass mesh) and do carry some on my truck, i just almost never use it.

As not to get sidetracked from the OP i will say that theres nothing wrong with using fiber tape and all purpose to start or for a small patch or 2 but a little practice with paper tape and you will never go back. Same goes for hot mud. For now maybe just get a feel for the knife and how to spread the mud. Water down the mud a little and mix it well and it spreads way smoother. Dont be afraid to glob it on then pull it off and smooth it as you go. I used to be absolutely horrible with drywall and hated hot mud with a passion. I also had a period where i would try to do a whole patch in one pass and a period where i was pulling way too much mud off when i skimmed. Used to cut alot of bubbles out of my paper tape too. But after years of practice i have finally gotten a good hang of it. I still use all purpose and TnT whenever time allows or on large drywall jobs but after so many jobs where lots of patches had to be done in a day or 2 i got used to using hot mud and know my limits with it. Like everything else the only real way to get good at it is with a lot of trial and error and practice. Also, watching YouTube videos has taught me some new techniques i may not have tried otherwise. Bottom line, watch what the pros do and use and you will start to see why these guys can finish huge drywall jobs in a few days that would take a "jack of all trades" a couple weeks to complete. Or how they can finish a patch from start to texture in a few hours and make it look like it was never there. I dont consider myself a drywall pro by any means but i have spent more than enough time to figure out what works and more importantly what doesnt work or wastes too much time. Get a 6" knife for taping and at least a 10" or 12" for skimcoats. Get some practice under your belt and soon you will be doing patches same day and not being afraid to tackle them on a regular basis. Gonna help alot when you dont have to call in a pro and shell out some serious $ for a few little patches.

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I'm not a big fan of using mesh with all purpose. I like hot mud for mesh.


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Also never use topping for tape or mesh. It doesn't have the glue in it that all purpose has.

There was a time when all you could get was either taping or topping. The hot mud actually got hot and dried hard as a rock.

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I'll also add if you mixed your hot mud with milky dirty water, it will go off faster and become less predictable.


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Whip the heck out of it and it'll set faster.

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